Points distribution

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I have premium account, more kills and assists than momo321 (he doesn’t have premium; i know because he’s my best friend and he would have told me if he had) and yet he has more points than me. So, the 1 million dollar question is: what’s the logic in that? How does the game distribute the points? Apparently it’s not about results because if it were, then I would have more points than momo321.

The last game we played together I had better results than his and I got 6060 points, while he, with worse results (kills and asts) got more than 6800 points!

  1. premium account does not matter

  2. efficiency and results depend on what objectives are being done by each, adding different amounts of points - so if you destroy objective targets you will have higher chances to get more points than killing lots of ads and the objectives accomplished do not show in the final score screen - in which case he completed more objectives than you, which can yield more points

Also damage assists give a different amount of points than buf or debuf assists.

 

if you destroy objective targets you will have higher chances to get more points

If I destroy obj. targets only will that give me more syn at the end of the game? I mean more synergy than I would get if I shoot at the backup bots?

If I destroy obj. targets only will that give me more syn at the end of the game? I mean more synergy than I would get if I shoot at the backup bots?

What you can do is fly 1 PvE and than go to your game folder, find combat log file and find your PvE game, there will be values (XP per each kill/destruction)

But you have to understand that this game is primarily a PvP game, there is nothing in a PvE that is challenging or entertaining, there are no quest lines, no scripted events, it is exactly the same mindless thing all over all levels, well maps are little different. The way it is done here is that for the synergy you play PvP and PvE is better for credit gains, sololy flying PvE it will take you ages to get to any higher ranked ship and even when you get there, they do NOT introduce anything new into the PvE games, only completion time will be shorter, that’s it

 

there is nothing in a PvE that is challenging or entertaining

On the contrary. There is a lot of challenging and entertaining things in pve. Even with rank 7 almost fully upgraded there are certain ships I can’t kill even if the whole squad is flying rank 7 ships. I saw a fully upgraded rank 9 having trouble with killing certain boss ships on 2 maps (in a game for rank 4-6), so there’s a lot of challenge in pve.

On the contrary. There is a lot of challenging and entertaining things in pve. Even with rank 7 almost fully upgraded there are certain ships I can’t kill even if the whole squad is flying rank 7 ships. I saw a fully upgraded rank 9 having trouble with killing certain boss ships on 2 maps (in a game for rank 4-6), so there’s a lot of challenge in pve.

You can’t be serious, it’s really boring and repetitive, there’s no challenge at all, it’s always the same, the same setup for each stage, the same everything.

On the contrary. There is a lot of challenging and entertaining things in pve. Even with rank 7 almost fully upgraded there are certain ships I can’t kill even if the whole squad is flying rank 7 ships. I saw a fully upgraded rank 9 having trouble with killing certain boss ships on 2 maps (in a game for rank 4-6), so there’s a lot of challenge in pve.

While learning PvE it can be fun and challenging.  When you learn PvE, it’s mind numbingly boring.

[…] I saw a fully upgraded rank 9 having trouble with killing certain boss ships on 2 maps (in a game for rank 4-6), so there’s a lot of challenge in pve.

 

Quote from another post of mine:

[…] pilots’ skills vary from below the ground to sky high, so meeting a good one is a rare occasion. […]

A skilled player can easily solo every pve (if his team doesn’t die within one minute after each round starts in some occasions).

Also, rank 7 are weak ships. At rank 8 you start getting the good ones (for T3 at least). Rank 10 is mostly a pretty bad set of ships again while rank 11 are good again (for T4).

 

And yeah it’s challenging only at the first steps when you learn it. Afterwards it becomes a boring routine and the only thing you do is try to break the shortest time records (not for the records, but to get the credits you need as fast as possible and get out of there).

Well, I’ll say it like the Americans - I’ll cross that bridge when I get to it. For the moment I’m satisfied with the pve option - that way I won’t have to face 6 ranks higher and/or cheaters who never die and/or make crazy damage that wouldn’t make without a cheat.

Well, I’ll say it like the Americans - I’ll cross that bridge when I get to it. For the moment I’m satisfied with the pve option - that way I won’t have to face 6 ranks higher and/or cheaters who never die and/or make crazy damage that wouldn’t make without a cheat.

If you ever DO get into PvP, do go at it from T1, don’t do like the rest of the Tier rushers and charge at it from T3+… You will fail miserably and force your more experienced team members to carry you in the match… which, more often than not, does NOT work.

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I have premium account, more kills and assists than momo321 (he doesn’t have premium; i know because he’s my best friend and he would have told me if he had) and yet he has more points than me. So, the 1 million dollar question is: what’s the logic in that? How does the game distribute the points? Apparently it’s not about results because if it were, then I would have more points than momo321.

The last game we played together I had better results than his and I got 6060 points, while he, with worse results (kills and asts) got more than 6800 points!

 

For example: Turrets. If you kill a turret in PVE you get 50 points. When you kill an enemy ship (even a boss) you get 20 points. So basically saying, if someone kills 10 turrets, and you kill 15 ships you are falling miserably behind in points when in compariso to the turret killer.

 

Also, in blackwood for example, if you give the last shot on those navstations you get 150 points, if you assisted you get 50 points, and if im not mistaken also counts as only 1 kill. And if you only buff assisted you get even less than that. Each beacon capture earns 100 points, so, if you kill 15 adds (enemy ships) and your friend capture 3 beacons (gets the point for it) he will have the same score as you by only capturing the beacons. Basically that covers up for everithing.

 

*** 20 poins per kill is the same for ANY kind of ship, no matter if they are veterans, elite, boss, when they die they only give 20 points to the one that delivered the last hit, and a little bit less to the ones that assisted with dammage or buffs.

 

 

Well, I’ll say it like the Americans - I’ll cross that bridge when I get to it. For the moment I’m satisfied with the pve option - that way I won’t have to face 6 ranks higher and/or cheaters who never die and/or make crazy damage that wouldn’t make without a cheat.

 

Theres no “cheaters that never die” And no “Crazy dammage that wouldnt make without a cheat”. It is all about how you pilot your vessel, how you fit it, and how much hits you can actually land on the enemy.

 

“cheaters that never die” = PPL tend to use lazers to hurt them, tbh, pratically all good pilots stack a LOT of thermal resistance due to the fact that 99% of the newbies love to use lasers, and lasers do what? Thermal dammage, so they will really take long to die. Try to hit them with diferent elements (but beware those weapons are projectile weapons, so you must have a good aim to land the full hit on them). Also, ion emmiters for example, hit crap dammage on inties if you cant maintain an interrupted contact for at least 3 seconds (very hard to do against good ceptor pilots) Frig lazers hit like a fluffy rabbit being handled you by another bigger fluffy rabbit, and also requires constant contact to do any real dammage. Pulse lazers (ceptors thermal lazer wep) have spread, something ppl dont think that is bad, but it is, since you end up missing most of your shots due to high spread.

 

“Crazy dammage that wouldnt make without a cheat” = If your ship lacks the resistance to the element you are being hit, and lacks the hull/shield to withstand the dammage you will be brokent in two with a single shot. If someone has a very steady hand, he can do monstrous dammage to anything even ceptors using ion emmiter. Or a skilled pilot with low latency using singularity cannon can destroy you in 2 shots IF they crit and you have no resist against EM damage. If you are a interceptor pilot and keep flying in straight line, standing still, doing predictable maneuvers or maneuvering in the wrong axis which doesnt make a diference for the attacker. Its all about Your flying skills, Your ship fitting, Your hability to hit the enemy verus the enemy flying skills, the enemy ship fitting, and his ability to hit you. If the enemy is better than you, dont say they are using cheats, asume you need training, and go fly all the way from T1 so you learn the basics for PVP, then go moving up the tiers, and things will start to get hairy and hairy.

 

Ive seen gunships dying in 2 seconds against my gunship, and ive seen gunships that i alone couldnt break it before backup arives and trash me, so i had to run, also, where you are matters a lot, dont think that jumping in the middle of 15 enemy ships with a xxxx fed engie will let you alive.

 

If you ever DO get into PvP, do go at it from T1, don’t do like the rest of the Tier rushers and charge at it from T3+… You will fail miserably and force your more experienced team members to carry you in the match… which, more often than not, does NOT work.

 

As oryngton stated, do that way please, otherwise you WILL hate the PVP of this game your entire life, because you will fail miserably due to lack of knowledge and skill.

Well, I’ll say it like the Americans - I’ll cross that bridge when I get to it. For the moment I’m satisfied with the pve option - that way I won’t have to face 6 ranks higher and/or cheaters who never die and/or make crazy damage that wouldn’t make without a cheat.

Buddy, again, IF you indeed met a R9 ship under conditions that you have described and you didn’t miss anything, this is a BUG, that currently no one else is experiencing, or they are silent about it.

Cheaters that never die or do crazy dmg, you should get your facts straight, if you do not know how this game works in PvP and what there is to learn, don’t go around accusing the game of cheaters. While everything is possible, amount of effort and resources required to “Cheat” in this game due to the game structure is enormous, which absolutely not practical or feasible.

Well, I’ll say it like the Americans - I’ll cross that bridge when I get to it. For the moment I’m satisfied with the pve option - that way I won’t have to face 6 ranks higher and/or cheaters who never die and/or make crazy damage that wouldn’t make without a cheat.

You already received responses to those arguments. But really, do you seriously believe there’s people “cheating”? Just because someone doesn’t fly in straight line, just because someone evades, knows how to dogfight, knows how to shoot, has reflexes, has tactical awareness in the battlefield and can discern where to go, when a who to attack, has a good sense of teamplay, practiced and studied how to fly and how to fit his ships, just because of that you say is a “cheater”? Then you, really, are the incarnation of an uber-n00b.

If you keep with the same position, playing only PvE and making every PvE mission last around the full time limit only to farm kills that give you nothing (is more effective to beat those missions as fast as possible to maximize gains), and yet come here to throw that kind of accusations, and also saying facts like “Jericho Commands are the best ships”, then prepare to be trolled to the infinity and beyond, you’ll be the joke of the forum… Well, you already are, sorry.

you’ll be the joke of the forum… Well, you already are, sorry.

What happened to Uhmari?

What happened to Uhmari?

He left again, as expected.

Ohh, the dude with all those theories, that wanted to reinvent the wheel.

Ohh, the dude with all those theories, that wanted to reinvent the wheel.

In fact he did, and it was triangular :slight_smile:

In fact he did, and it was triangular :slight_smile:

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Interceptor next gen :smiley:

There is a different amount of points for buff assists and damage assists as well there are objectives and obstacles on the map that are not shown in this rating. It does not matter for the rating if you use a normal ship or a premium ship.