Сontractual battles in Sector conquest: Punishment (Discussion)

Just wanted to inform us? In our opinion does not matter?

 

Yeah. The wording was not the best since corporations and their members are all affected by this matter. But the intention of informing us is still laudable. 

I think next time it would be better for everyone that such news aren’t even revealed for people around here or post them and lock the discussion, people around here are clearly not interested in anything except complaining

I rather suspect the issue is twofold: 1) that these people are just doing what the systems allow, if not encourage. 2) That it took this long for the Devs to wake up and see the problem.

 

People like to see rulebreakers punished shortly after they start breaking rules, not months or years later with most of them just getting a caution.

same thing goes to the crimson haze exploit, could easily bypass the whole 2. round. People kept exploiting it, but it took a long time before it was fixed. Another thing, I think its good that there was a punishment, but nothing got fixed. It would be a good idea to remaster the whole system, so it wouldn’t encourage the players to exploit it more.

 It would be a good idea to remaster the whole system, so it wouldn’t encourage the players to exploit it more.

 

Dev blog said this was the plan for this year. Probably after destroyer stuff got settled.

speaking of which, T5 destroyer sectors.

I think next time it would be better for everyone that such news aren’t even revealed for people around here or post them and lock the discussion, people around here are clearly not interested in anything except complaining

 

Well there is matter to complain. So we do. Should we compliment the devs on finally “catching the culprits” and punishing them, like in a police television series? I find it more reasonable to engage a discussion about the causes, not the consequences, and I am glad the devs have opened this thread. I just hope they read it and can understand at least some of the points we have raised here.

 

I am interested in preventing such events from happening again. Beyond my “Russians” comments, it is sad to see SCORP be dissolved, because I respected them as opponents in the old sec con for a long time. Wanting to keep being the winners led them to use a mechanic wrongly put in place by the devs, and this is why I complain. The punishment is just, but then every corp should be punished. OWL (with HOWL), NASA, WPK, SRS, any corp that has engaged in dreadnoughts, you name it, has used these mechanics somewhat. It makes no sense.

Its funny, if we had custom dread fights then this would be much less relevant because at least people could still play dread battles.

 

System has been nothing but abused since day one, this is no surprise and it should be expected to be abused again.

I am interested in preventing such events from happening again. Beyond my “Russians” comments, it is sad to see SCORP be dissolved, because I respected them as opponents in the old sec con for a long time. Wanting to keep being the winners led them to use a mechanic wrongly put in place by the devs, and this is why I complain. The punishment is just, but then every corp should be punished. OWL (with HOWL), NASA, WPK, SRS, any corp that has engaged in dreadnoughts, you name it, has used these mechanics somewhat. It makes no sense.

 

I dont think so, i for one am glad that there has been a recognised difference between abuse of game mechanic on a daily basis and what others were doing just to get a game.

 

Genuine complaints would have been much worse if these other corps were treated the same way as SCORP for asking a friend to fill a slot as you might have a 2nd wing that day, grabbing the other slot just to make sure your wing had one or simply placeholder as a friend had asked the day before but was not going to be around to launch for his corp 1min after registration. Which is when these attack slots got filled with bs almost every day. Too far west then no dreads for you. There was a yawning chasm of a difference between what some corps were doing in comparison to others.

 

I have only had a look at a couple of the attack lists since so cant be 100% sure but as for the consequences it seems that it has been cleared up significantly as people are less inclined to try to exploit for the sake of holding onto their sectors. Not to say that it wont still happen to a certain extent, i believe that it will. But it seems to me that as a quick fix option some corps have been made example of and now i imagine an element of risk and fear involved to anyone thinking to exploit this again. Nobody wants to see corps disbanded, but if they are the worst perpetrators and provides a soft fix then i dont have much issue with it.

 

It just took too long where a warning would have probably sufficed back when people where still interested.

I hope that this late example of such “punishment” is not a replacement for such mechanics to stay as they are.

Check this out from yesterday: http://forum.star-conflict.ru/index.php?/topic/51115-nabor-v-korporatciiu-scorpions/

SCORPIONS has reborn.

Well, it was expected. Their players are hard core, and maybe they play the game a bit too passionately. I did not expect them just leave butthurt.

Lets see how things will go for them this time. 

Well, as long as this system exists, people will abuse it. They will find other means to do it more discreetly.

Well, as long as this system exists, people will abuse it. They will find other means to do it more discreetly.

Yes, very likely. Finding new ways to break the rules is a game within the game after all. Just like in RL.

Q: Why not permanent bans for the second time offenders? It seems like it is worth commiting this crime; to possibly lose 7 days on an account.

 

What happens when they make alternate accounts ceo of corporation and thus suffer no penalty? It seems like a really good deal to make

an alliance when you only lose 7 days out of each 365 on a couple ceo accounts.

 

I imagine this offense is not serious at all if not encouraged; that being the case -why not just allow it or incorporate an alliance system? 

It appears there is a want for that. This is going to happen again and again and again.

 

Where can I find a list of associated punishments so I can determine which rules are worth breaking? That is my reaction to this news.

Q: Why not permanent bans for the second time offenders? It seems like it is worth commiting this crime; to possibly lose 7 days on an account.

 

What happens when they make alternate accounts ceo of corporation and thus suffer no penalty? It seems like a really good deal to make

an alliance when you only lose 7 days out of each 365 on a couple ceo accounts.

 

I imagine this offense is not serious at all if not encouraged; that being the case -why not just allow it or incorporate an alliance system? 

It appears there is a want for that. This is going to happen again and again and again.

 

Where can I find a list of associated punishments so I can determine which rules are worth breaking? That is my reaction to this news.

You think should we be more hard?)

And here’s game server code of conduct https://forum.star-conflict.com/index.php?/topic/8916-game-server-code-of-conduct/