New tier 3 ships seem a bit op

Achilles is fun for frig hunting, although my Katana AE seems to end frigs quickly using a DDay (I give up on the hate for it) and Bubble guns with boosted damage and proj. speed.

I tested them both. I really like them. No OP effect, but nice for getting maniacs.

They are supposed to be stronger than Phobos // Silent Fox, but i don’t think they are stronger than Desert Eagle/ Nukem I or Parallax.

At damage they might get some points but then they are less durable and they are slower so in general they are balanced.

Achilles is better in dmg and in durability than both Nukem and DE,that is with addaptive shield and 1 galva 1 armor plate but it’s really slow

Achilles is better in dmg and in durability than both Nukem and DE,that is with addaptive shield and 1 galva 1 armor plate but it’s really slow

Hyena with dual horizon + range ammo gravi is quite hilarious also.

Hyena with dual horizon + range ammo gravi is quite hilarious also.

Thx.

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Hyena with dual horizon + range ammo gravi is quite hilarious also.

full crit chance ions on hyena+target painter is like having old ions back :smiley:

Thx.

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You are welcome.

no stronger than the other r9’s out there

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5% crit chance and 80% crit dmg? You better put the +7% damage implant rather than the crit dmg one.

5% crit chance and 80% crit dmg? You better put the +7% damage implant rather than the crit dmg one.

That thing not even gonna tickle, plus range on debufs is 2x less than that anyways.

Achilles is better in dmg and in durability than both Nukem and DE,that is with addaptive shield and 1 galva 1 armor plate but it’s really slow

 

My DE begs to differ on both. 2x galvenized and a kinetic has been far tankier for me on my DE than the Achilles with 1x galv, 1 armor, and an adaptive.

My DE also does more damage. (From my experience with both ships).

They aren’t OP, I like them alot though, since they fit my play style much better than the premiums did.  I’m thoroughly enjoying them when I get the chance to play.  

 

I find the Hyena is a really good “support” tackler providing slows and target painting tanky guards.  Its not meant for dog fighting as much as it is “fighterwaffe” in my opinion.  The effects bonus on the target painter makes it wicked against tanky foes, and it can slow the crap out of anything.  Just fits that role that t3 tackler lineup didn’t really have for r9.  

 

The Achilles is also balanced I think.  It doesn’t have as much effective damage as the Nukem and Deagle, but it makes up for it in its fitting versatility (except for speed).  I personally find dual tanking it very nice.  

That thing not even gonna tickle, plus range on debufs is 2x less than that anyways.

 

But it’s going to do a bit more than the crit chance though. Maybe his intentions are just slowing constantly enemies from far away even if it means dealing little damage.

But it’s going to do a bit more than the crit chance though.

yes, E6 will net considerably more dmg in this case, i agree on that.

Maybe his intentions are just slowing constantly enemies from far away even if it means dealing little damage.

 

Tillowaty? Supporting? please

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My DE begs to differ on both. 2x galvenized and a kinetic has been far tankier for me on my DE than the Achilles with 1x galv, 1 armor, and an adaptive.

My DE also does more damage. (From my experience with both ships).

You sure about that?

Achilles:

Hull:7484

Kinetic:152

EM:156

Thermal:126

 

Shield:4655

Kinetic:127

EM:67

Thermal:97

 

Desert Eagle:

Hull:7484

Kinetic:129

EM:134

Thermal:104

 

Shield:4655

Kinetic:60

EM:0

Thermal:30

 

Achilles:1 addaptive,1 Kinetic 1 galva

DE:1 Kinetic 2 galva

No boosters used

 

About the dmg Achilles has 2 capacitors DE has 1,achilles has 1 CPU DE has 2,1 extra CPU dosen’t beat 1 capacitor slot

  • Adaptive is only “truly” part of tank when you are flying with Bubbles, with any other weapon due to the way they handled Adaptive is an optional benefit that does not have 100% uptime

  • “1 extra CPU dosen’t beat 1 capacitor slot” - increase base dmg vs increase dmg multipliers, learn the difference

  • DE has more dmg passive bonuses than Achilles, but I guess you are just to good to read them

  • Adaptive is only “truly” part of tank when you are flying with Bubbles, with any other weapon due to the way they handled Adaptive is an optional benefit that does not have 100% uptime

  • “1 extra CPU dosen’t beat 1 capacitor slot” - increase base dmg vs increase dmg multipliers, learn the difference

  • DE has more dmg passive bonuses than Achilles, but I guess you are just to good to read them

-You’r wrong addaptive is good for any weapon,when strafing to 1 or 2 directions and moving a bit forward or full back addaptive is on.

-I know the difference

-DE has 25% dmg bonus including capacitor Achilles has 35% dmg bonus including 2 capacitors,it’s just that DE has 10% crit chance bonus and 1 extra CPU. 

So 28% base dmg +10% multiplier is not less than 18% base +30% multiplier?

Is that what you mean by saying you know the difference?