New Matchmaker System Discussion

Matchmaker is still bad, no better than before. Most of the time it is an absolute blowout, no chance to win for one team and no possibility of loss for the other.
 
It is very easy to predict just from the names and ships at the start of a match how it will go, most of the time. 
 
Sometimes the games are closer (ish), but there is still a large margin for winning / losing.
 
I see no improvement from last version, and matchmaker takes longer to find games.

Yeah, im just guessing now it takes other variables in consideration, i wish we could get a full display of the MM logic, not just the “its better now” lol. Still think the elo rating system is better and its used in most of the mmo games for good reasons.

 

It isn’t a good idea to let players to know all the logic behind the MM because then it could be abused more easily. 

 

Devs can use a lot of info from matches. Even some stats not showed to us. 

 

I have readed something about the ELO rating and i also think it could be a good idea to use it here.

When i played MOBA games, the elo rating proved to be the best for MM. Would be a nice improvement tho, lets sit and wait.

Add player feedback functionality to your game
 
 
Start with a feedback button for the match end scoreboard in skirmish PvP.
 
Players can choose from: 
   - This match was balanced
   - This match was not balanced
 
etc you choose
 
It could even be a smiley face system like many modern programs have.
 
Get better feedback god damn it stop fooling around. 
 
 
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Add player feedback functionality to your game

Start with a feedback button for the match end scoreboard in skirmish PvP.

Players can choose from:

  • This match was balanced

  • This match was not balanced

etc you choose

It could even be a smiley face system like many modern programs have.

YES.

YES.

YES.

YES.

YESSSSSSSSSSSS.

Add player feedback functionality to your game

 

 

Start with a feedback button for the match end scoreboard in skirmish PvP.

 

Players can choose from: 

   - This match was balanced

   - This match was not balanced

 

etc you choose

 

It could even be a smiley face system like many modern programs have.

 

Get better feedback god damn it stop fooling around. 

 

 

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That way the algorithm could learn how to make the matches more balanced

 

Also make sure feedback come from both winning and losing teams. It is almost as bad winning a unbalanced match as it is losing one.

Add player feedback functionality to your game

 

 

Start with a feedback button for the match end scoreboard in skirmish PvP.

 

Players can choose from: 

   - This match was balanced

   - This match was not balanced

 

etc you choose

 

It could even be a smiley face system like many modern programs have.

 

Get better feedback god damn it stop fooling around. 

 

 

 

I believe the results in this way will not be impressive. Vast majority will say Unbalanced if they lose, and Balanced if they win.

2 total blowouts yesterday and two nearly balanced ones.

Can’t say the MM is good…

This is just an example - it can be any kind of feedback.

 

Case in point, as a player you should be able to give feedback per match and as an analyst, you should put that data to use.

Still, all the MM needs now is the elo rating system, the flaming but whole feedback will destroy even this much we have now.

My problem with MM is: if I want to play with destroyer (R8 full syn), it must alone in slot, if is ship in rank below or same (I didnt try combinations with higher ranks), game wont start…

I believe the results in this way will not be impressive. Vast majority will say Unbalanced if they lose, and Balanced if they win.

This won’t be universally true. Plenty of people will complain about curb stomp battles either way, and if you allow for more details, you can quickly find the “I lost so it wasn’t fair” games and ignore them.

I believe the results in this way will not be impressive. Vast majority will say Unbalanced if they lose, and Balanced if they win.

Matchmaker? lol, do you even have one?. “Majority” of my battles on lower ranks then i usually play look unbalance no matter if i lose or win.

You want feedback about so called matchmaker i tell you about one of many similar battle i have. 2 active destroyers on oposite side and 2 not taken destroyers in my team, if you add to this guy with one r13 ship and TWO r8 who take … r8 ship to fight against r11 destroyers and r13-r15 ships then that look very balanced game to me to.

Squads are still punished. Someone can explain rationale behind “force equal number of squads in opposing teams” rule???

 

Why if we are the only squad (on all servers!!!) we are stuck forever in a queue???

 

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for the MM isnt broken

the fact , atm there’s somenting strange in game :

  • teamplay , …i.e. team death match mode its a bit funny to see players take 3 or 4 sniper to take down a destroyer but don’t kill the 2 ingies this one

  • its seems players have forgetten their module get an active mode and can help/support allies

  • many times i see ingies , guard with their proper module class ships ( the same for coverops and recon )

  • in beacon mode , players just looking for scoring and dont play the objectifs :frowning:

 

so when atm , we can have 5 or 6 game to have a balanced game and it seems that case each time we wan’t finish dayli task mission

 

i’m in this game since 2013 ( over 6000 games ) , for a long time i was a rating of 0.93 - 0,97 win/loss but after the last patch is now 0.86-0.87 …Oo

 

steel have balanced match at r15 ( closed score ) but in T3 and T4 , its become boring to see a game where many time there’s no teamplay .

Squads are still punished. 

 

 

About squads and its numbers in PvP, I encourage everyone to wait a little bit for nearest patch

About squads and its numbers in PvP, I encourage everyone to wait a little bit for nearest patch

 

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Prepare for surprise b…update xD

Prepare for surprise b…update xD

It is actually the greatest patch for a long, long, long, long time in my opinion. You will all be shocked in a good way.

About squads and its numbers in PvP, I encourage everyone to wait a little bit for nearest patch

 

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