Yesterday i was playing t3 and there was about 450 population and i had made a squad and there were 3 people in it, but there were probably no one that has a 3-4 man squad at that time so we were sitting in que for 15 min and we gave up. The new update says that u need a 1-2 squad vs 1-2 squad and. 3-4 squad vs 3-4 squad, but why cat they use common sense and make it so that we are on 1 team and 2 two man squads on the other team? And i always believed this game was based on “teamwork”? Now im getting a feeling that its pretty much every man for themselves except all the players are put into 2 different teams. Anyway, the point is, the game doesnt want teamwork. I play many other games all of them are multiplayer team games and this game seems to have no idea what its doing. They are releasing updates every 2 weeks with no clear reason for it and its messsing up the game start advertising or something, u can do it for free on facebook or something. :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Yeah. Outside of peak population times, I usually just fly solo to keep queue times under control. There needs to be rules to MM that relax the matching when the population falls under 500 players. Keep the rules as they are when population allows, and fall to how we had them before the update when there are fewer people around.
1 patch before it was nice. I did not mind that 1 team had 3x2 and my team usually had 1x2 or any random squad placement.
bad pilots cried because it was not fair to them bla bla, and now we got single player game.
I can not play with my friends. Even duo squad takes forever in T4 with 1800 pop. Duo que - 10-11 min to wait the only other duo to reque.
Solo <3 min. We both que in the same second (TS sync) we end up in 2 different games 3v3 or 4v4. Why those 2 games were not merged into 1 good 8v8 ?
But yeah, thank bad players who always whine about people using teamwork to kill them, people who play for 2 years beat the ones who play for 2 weeks …
Recently I dropped down in T1 for 2 matches. I hunted those full purple people that want to seal club new players. Well, Skill + Mk2(because mk1 has too low range for my taste) > Full mk4 and no skill.
Teamwork > Individual skill > Gear.
You can not expect to have best gear and suck at the game and to beat people with teamwork.
You learn not to suck so much.
You find other people.
You start making the game hard for those squads.
But no, instead you cry and whine and devs are changing MM to cater for spoiled brats.
+1 mapoko
I am starting to think they hired new people that are just incompetent. If they were doctors and you went to them with a broken leg, they’d fix your hand and send you home. That’s what happened with the MM fix in this patch.
They had a good idea: match a squad with a ±1 size squad. That was GOOD. But the MM was just randomly putting squads in teams, so we had 3 squads of 2 man in a team, 0 in the other team.
We asked that IF there are for example 3 teams in a game, the should be split even in the 2 teams. So it would be 1 squad vs 2 squads on the other team. Because it was 3 squads vs 0 squads in many matches. Or even 4 vs 0. In a 4 vs 0 squads, just make it 2v2 no?
But no. They decided to remove the actually good and inspired decision to match a squad with a ±1 squad, they made it again 2 man vs 2 man, mandatory. 3v3 mandatory. 4v4 mandatory. And now teamplay is unplayable in T4-T5.
I think their programmers can’t code this for some reason. Like they are new and don’t know the code? I really have no idea.
+1 MM was just fine as it what was, now they broke it again. See you in the next patch/MM fix.
The MM idea is good if we had around 10k players at peak time.
But with 1500 players peak time this weekend, it just doesn’t work.
I would recommend reverting to the previous MM iteration. It was good and almost nobody complained about.
I am starting to think they hired new people that are just incompetent. If they were doctors and you went to them with a broken leg, they’d fix your hand and send you home. That’s what happened with the MM fix in this patch.
They had a good idea: match a squad with a ±1 size squad. That was GOOD. But the MM was just randomly putting squads in teams, so we had 3 squads of 2 man in a team, 0 in the other team.
We asked that IF there are for example 3 teams in a game, the should be split even in the 2 teams. So it would be 1 squad vs 2 squads on the other team. Because it was 3 squads vs 0 squads in many matches. Or even 4 vs 0. In a 4 vs 0 squads, just make it 2v2 no?
But no. They decided to remove the actually good and inspired decision to match a squad with a ±1 squad, they made it again 2 man vs 2 man, mandatory. 3v3 mandatory. 4v4 mandatory. And now teamplay is unplayable in T4-T5.
I think their programmers can’t code this for some reason. Like they are new and don’t know the code? I really have no idea.
My sentiments exactly.
I would recommend reverting to the previous MM iteration. It was good and almost nobody complained about.
That will make for a good temporary fix while the devs find a way to make MM work properly without creating new problems.
They had a good idea: match a squad with a ±1 size squad. That was GOOD.
To be sexy and quote myself a bit.
I realized that idea was not just GOOD, it was AWESOME. Why?
Because people were not afraid of doing 2 man squads, it was the same as queuing alone. 2 man play was WILDLY encouraged. That means that 3 man squads were easily finding a 2 man squad to play against. So they were encouraged to play in 3 man teams also. And THAT made it easy for 4 man squads to find a game, because there were so many 3 player wings out there, encouraged by the 2 man teams out there. It’s like a chain of freaking love and HEAVENLY matchmaking.
And also, not unbalanced. As long as you had an equal number of squads in each team. You were supposed to fix only that.
It was pure Genius!
Please, an admin, Error, Funky, someone, sticky this somewhere, make the devs aware of this chain of awesomeness.
I am starting to think they hired new people that are just incompetent. If they were doctors and you went to them with a broken leg, they’d fix your hand and send you home. That’s what happened with the MM fix in this patch.
They had a good idea: match a squad with a ±1 size squad. That was GOOD. But the MM was just randomly putting squads in teams, so we had 3 squads of 2 man in a team, 0 in the other team.
We asked that IF there are for example 3 teams in a game, the should be split even in the 2 teams. So it would be 1 squad vs 2 squads on the other team. Because it was 3 squads vs 0 squads in many matches. Or even 4 vs 0. In a 4 vs 0 squads, just make it 2v2 no?
But no. They decided to remove the actually good and inspired decision to match a squad with a ±1 squad, they made it again 2 man vs 2 man, mandatory. 3v3 mandatory. 4v4 mandatory. And now teamplay is unplayable in T4-T5.
I think their programmers can’t code this for some reason. Like they are new and don’t know the code? I really have no idea.
code: T H E N E W M A T C H M A K I N G I S. D U M B
You think that’s unfair? Take a look at this.
Annoyances like these are relatively rare, but I’d rather wait more in the queue than play a match like that.
Looks fine to me.
I assume enemy team was more coordinated in going after beacons than your team but that is team work which is a facet MM cannot easily factor in.
You think that’s unfair? Take a look at this.
Annoyances like these are relatively rare, but I’d rather wait more in the queue than play a match like that.
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Well, your game mode is Beacon Capture, and your team has practically zero captures and few kills. The enemy team is the opposite, and the top players were not in a squad. That tells me one very likely scenario: Your team would die, then charge into the inferno ball of death that is the enemy team formed up on the beacon…waiting for prey. They would do this on every beacon and make it impossibru to take the point unless your team forms up and attempts a planned assault. Unfortunately for you, their bot completely jacked your team up haha.
* * * Hate the new MM when putting T4’s with T5’s in same pvp battles… that’s like the most annoying thing they ever done to this game and queue is not even that faster than before (like they say, “they broke the game more”). There is no point in doing that if your ships will be the lowest rank in a battle then you (as a player) won’t be that efficient. If it was to fix the queue time then now they made it just an unfair game. * * * :facepalm:
Its like playing ‘Sector Conquest’ without your corp mates and not knowing what the other player’s skill are or not even working as a team. :beee:
PLEASE put it back the way it was and squads in MM don’t matter. If there is a squad on one side and not on the other who cares that don’t matter we’ll just know they’ll play better or might not so the chances are the same. FIX IT and make it better than this and b4.
First, red font colour is reserved for Moderation purposes only. Second, nice necro.