ok the devs are either VERY shortsighted or oblivious or just dont really want to fix it or all of the mentioned. if noone seems to point it out to them here is the issue: normal ships with burner are kind of manageable. the premiums - loki are insane. why? cause they can use 3 unique modules and guess what they use: thermal, combat accelerator and mass charge accelerator. this is just insane. 11k base speed on the weapon + 16% from combat accelerator, even moooore range from it as well -11% and in the end mass charge gives 60% speed on a very short cd and oh wait, 12.5% dmg. if you dont know how aiming at interceptors that fly at 600 speed looks like - the lead marker is kind of like shooting a laser. 3 hits and ints are toast. 6 hits and fighters are toast. frigates … meh they cant even get outside the rock cause they get shredded from 7-8k range.cut the range on the goddam thermal burner by 20% or more, reduce the speed by half and cut the speed bonus on mass charge accelerator!!
 
One must understand that it is only that OP on a lopi. You can’t get such crits on any other command.
Must be “coincidence” that it’s a DLC ship now!
Those poor balancers, they deserve their holidays!!
When’s this game due for release?
yup the weapon is okay but due to the fact that the Loki got access to all modules, that makes the burner op on this ship. If they nerf the dmg output, other ships will heavily suffer from it, and same as the projectile speed. So far I think the best idea is to reduce the energy burning effect (7%) and eventually the maximum dmg when the trigger is held, by 20%.
thermal burner good in loki? maybe OP? NO and what about the other ships? Well i used to kill a lot of pilots with my crit dmg excalibur but now is somewhat useless.
And guess what, the loki is a DLC ship…
3 hours ago, xKostyan said:
did you fly it? I can’t believe you don’t find it OP (only on the loki, with up to 6k damage per crit, the energy drain is baby poo compared to that)
1 hour ago, Oregyen said:
did you fly it? I can’t believe you don’t find it OP (only on the loki, with up to 6k damage per crit, the energy drain is baby poo compared to that)
I do have it, and you are not going to 3x shot interceptors from 7-8k range. Current version of Energy burner as good on Loki as any other mid range weapon, put a gauss or a phaser on it with same crit build, you gonna rack up 20+ kills on it every other 9v9 game.
It gains max spread and lowest projectile speed in less shots too now, so when some one is saying that it tears enemies apart from 7-8k, I can’t help it but laugh.
Yeah, put a curved on it, some spread reduction and it becomes good anti heavy weapon, that still is not useless vs light targets, as I said, that is Loki, it makes any weapon strong, while being pretty glass cannon for a command, it always has been. I would have liked another approach at burner’s nerf, but w/e in current state it is hardly OP
I would give the [Thermal energy burner 17] like :
-50% time to overheating and
+50% cooling time
2 hours ago, avarshina said:
I would give the [Thermal energy burner 17] like :
-50% time to overheating and
+50% cooling time
Overheating lazor from Spiral, boy does it cancel lokis attempts to kill anything lol
I think nerfing the entire game to limit an exploit from one ship is just plain STUPID !!!… why not just put a ship in your slot to counter the Loki and stop trying to nerf the game all the time … this only affects PVP !!! …no other mode needs to be nerfed because 5 players have a Loki and you WONT fly the ships that are unaffected by its exploit …
Ugh, this player, the TEB was powerful before, now its alright, Loki might have the crit and mobility but its nothing more than a glass cannon, no shield slots and only one cap, it can’t do any diffusion tanking whatsoever, and even with 3 engines its still an Imperial ship, the 15% bonus in rotation won’t help too much unless you are fighting at close ranges, where the TEB will have issues, now that you get to the max spread in one shot and firing when getting back to pinpoint accuracy will make it ineffective, when sniping small ships it will definitely not kill them so fast, this hate post is so blatant that even Taz is against it, and that means something.
2 hours ago, Original_Taz said:
I think nerfing the entire game to limit an exploit from one ship is just plain STUPID !!!… why not just put a ship in your slot to counter the Loki and stop trying to nerf the game all the time … this only affects PVP !!! …no other mode needs to be nerfed because 5 players have a Loki and you WONT fly the ships that are unaffected by its exploit …
But… The game is pretty much 80% PvP 
The solution is: “Thermal enegy burner 13-17”. And then nothing else needs to be changed (besides the point that it is pretty stupid and weak on Aura + Prometheus X).
I would simply reduce its base critical hit damage to 20% instead of 50%. This would hurt the Loki much harder than the others. It would balance out the weapons damage output and the vastly different performance on different ships.
Ps: I love how the title went from ‘u turds’ to ‘you magnificent creatures’ xD
1 hour ago, Scar6 said:
Ps: I love how the title went from ‘u turds’ to ‘you magnificent creatures’ xD
Wait, really? Huh, nothing like the smell of the banhammer in the morning am I right? *wink* *wink*
On 1/21/2018 at 10:56 PM, xKostyan said:
i dont like your kind, glober…
2 minutes ago, mutsami said:
i dont like your kind, glober…
you ppl still dont talk about the mass charge accelerator which is the thing that lets thermals kill ints in 3 shots from 6k when you activate it … The weapon still has almost laser accuracy when you stack all speed buffs and activate mca plus you dont need to sacrifice any of the crit component or the dps to get speed.
On 1/22/2018 at 8:06 PM, mutsami said:
i dont like your kind, glober…
Sorry but NO. You are the one deceiving. This letter with the dot on top right is pronounced “sh” so its not “nasa” but “nasha” has a meaning of “deceive” . And Hebrew is funny language so “nasa” depends on how you use it may actually mean to support (past), endure, to speak (like saying a speech) lift something, marry, hold, escape, had a parasite in body… e.t.c. three letters root has a very generic meaning