I love when people call me cheater, it boost my epeen. Or when guys in a damn op spark accuse me of using only powaaa ships…
But in this case, knowing how it went, I think people overeacted after an argument and started to multiple report this guy.
Someone believed them and as precaution banned Hyperion for a while in order to find proof.
That’s what happened.
Btw he is good with lazors, I give him that, but not THAT good. Learn to counter people before accusing of cheating.
This should be an achievement in the game that grants you title “Cheater”.
10 hours ago, Vohvelielain said:
This should be an achievement in the game that grants you title “Cheater”.
Indeed, on this case btw people went a bit too far.
On 9/29/2016 at 6:40 PM, millanbel said:
That’s actually very interesting. I fought against you yesterday and did indeed get rather angry at your perfect aim with lasers. I thought it might be automation but didn’t report it. It felt like you were using the old A1MA aimbot, like how the laser would jump and “lock on” to the target for a certain period of time, even ceptors. Of course I have no way of knowing if that’s true, but let’s just say you stood out from the crowd…
Also PM CinnamonFake if you wish to dispute the ban, don’t do it in public like this.
Issue has been resolved Thanks.
I guess I just have to record battles as evidence every once in a while just to protect myself from this happening again.
38 minutes ago, LongBee said:
Issue has been resolved Thanks.
I guess I just have to record battles as evidence every once in a while just to protect myself from this happening again.
Nice, glad to hear that!
14 hours ago, LongBee said:
Issue has been resolved Thanks.
I guess I just have to record battles as evidence every once in a while just to protect myself from this happening again.
this too. I feel like i need to buy a hard drive and dashcam all my games just to protect myself against angry democracy bans. Especially now that i’ve phased over to flux phaser almost completely with my main ship.
This community is… I want to say 98% trash in that they are both ignorant and unskilled, and of the other 2%, I want to say less than half is what I would consider above average which is where I would also place myself although I have been on the top of ranking boards consistently when I hit my stride, so maybe it varies from above average to good player. Off the top of my head I can only name five people with which I would consider competitors. To me they’re the top players.
with those kinds of numbers it’s not a surprise that a democratic reporting system meant to save money (by needing to hire less or any people) can turn into a witch hunt.
That first ban i received has almost halted my spending of money in this game, out of concern that it will happen again, possibly permanently, and since I can not trust the support mechanisms in place it’s best to no longer make the kind of financial investment I could come to regret in the future over what I view as incompetent game management by relying on automated systems which are reactionary in nature and can be influenced by the ignorant majority.
Until I am absolutely certain this will not happen again, gaijin is not likely to see me as a regular customer. I have been assured it was a mistake and I will trust in the people who said this, but we will see over time. I very much rather prefer to be able to trust the people who get paid to run the game because they often get too little praise for the amount of responsibilities they’re tasked with for the sake of entertainment (and profit.)
On 9/29/2016 at 1:41 PM, Spongejohn said:
I love when people call me cheater, it boost my epeen. Or when guys in a damn op spark accuse me of using only powaaa ships…
But in this case, knowing how it went, I think people overeacted after an argument and started to multiple report this guy.
Someone believed them and as precaution banned Hyperion for a while in order to find proof.
That’s what happened.
Btw he is good with lazors, I give him that, but not THAT good. Learn to counter people before accusing of cheating.
Thanks John. I really appreciate it.
I would be better with them if I did not have to contend with ping. Usually it was a turnkeying interceptor pilot getting confused about my excellent circle drawing skills.
I have now transitioned over to flux phaser as destroyers are becoming more mainstream and it 1. follows the same aiming technique as ions, 2. splashes through destroyer barracides, 3. has a longer reach, and 4. I am rewarded with all the damage in even the most agile targets instead of a cloud of three digit numbers. They’re also better at killing recent cloakers because the projectile still continues to track under certain circumstances. The only real weakness is difficulty of use at close range and the danger of self splash, but I will learn.
In the past, I’ve had players report me for cheating with a mass of up to 15 kills, using the likes of guard ships, covert ops and gunships - it’s mostly down to how you’re using weapons like lasers I find. The damage a laser puts out is incredible, and even more so people will be challenged by the system that lasers work on. If you hold the cursor over the ship long enough, while piloting the ship you’re much more shaky - on receiving laser damage, the latency means that the beam status on you for a moment before it almost jerks to another position.
Needless to also say, lasers in particular have to be strong because of the size of the hitbox. You must hover the cursor over a tiny entity for seconds to be able to deal some credible damage which, when you talk about lasers, is a seriously tough job. Sure, having your reticle within the prediction marker helps, but the hitbox is that prediction marker you’re talking about - again, very small entity.
There’s also the question of how your ships are set up. I have a higher kill record in my Patriarch than in my Scimitar, because I can equip verniers that means I can turn towards my best target faster; same thing goes for my Mjolnir and the ion emitters, because I can use the three capacitors and the CPU spaces as purely dedicated damage build spaces that the Spark, Apollo and Lightbringer are simply incapable of matching up to, despite the damage boosts, weapon heating and critical bonuses. It doesn’t make you a cheater to have your ships set up smartly, out just means that you have a good setup, steady hands and an aptitude for lasers.
Flux phaser is a no brainer. The laser guide actually locks on to the ship, so that when you are using the weapon you know that your flux charge is on course. The aiming principle is similar to lasers, but the weapon is do misunderstood that people either completely reject it, or claim it’s unfair it’s used. It doesn’t require much shill to use, but it’s so difficult to set up correctly that people make assertions that it’s not that good, that people who use it and get loads of damage output from it (including critical damage, believe it or otherwise) must be exploiting some form of illegal mechanic. It isn’t uncommon for people to even think that because of the type of weapon it is, that while people are able to bend the flux charge round asteroids and objects, it should not be possible to bend the flux phaser’s projectile so sharply; it is if you’re using supernova ammunition.
Here’s the other thing. These weapons have a very standard rate of critical chance, so players are more likely to deal damage using a gunship than any other ship in the game. The critical damage is variant, but is still static if you think about the flux phaser; beam cannons and ion emitters are so variant because of that you have to keep your mouse fixed, and even then during that time you can deal damage of amounts anywhere between the minimum damage it will allow you to deal, and the maximum critical damage.
In the end, even if you think you hit you miss. Same thing with if you think you’re dealing/receiving normal damage based on the high numbers or the size of the numbers that show, you’re probably wrong. I’m not saying that the numbers lie, I’m simply saying that they are so unpredictable to use that people will brand you as a cheater, that you use aimbots or for some other mysterious reason. Even if you are using cheats, it’s still way too hard to determine anything because of the nature of the armoury and mind you, using an aimbot on a flux phaser would just be the same as using it normally, just even worse because you’d have less control of your ship…
5 hours ago, Battlecruiser_NA said:
This community is… I want to say 98% trash in that they are both ignorant and unskilled, and of the other 2%, I want to say less than half is what I would consider above average which is where I would also place myself although I have been on the top of ranking boards consistently when I hit my stride,
Present for you
1 hour ago, millanbel said:
Present for you
Ahh nice, finally a decent piece of rubber!
11 hours ago, Battlecruiser_NA said:
This community is… I want to say 98% trash in that they are both ignorant and unskilled, and of the other 2%, I want to say less than half is what I would consider above average which is where I would also place myself although I have been on the top of ranking boards consistently when I hit my stride, so maybe it varies from above average to good player. Off the top of my head I can only name five people with which I would consider competitors. To me they’re the top players.
I’m now going to make a sweeping judgement to this game’s player base using your standards.
98% of the players have a bad attitude and should just be banned forever. The other 2% should be encouraged to be pointed out for their flaws until they get it right, because all their flaws are common but not bad enough to be removed. The few who make above the <1% statistic outside of everyone else are the perfect role models and we should all look up to them.
I guess I must be so privileged to be a member of staff, huh. Everyone should just be like me!
All hail to shotan! ^^
Getting called a cheater when you a re not cheating is a compliment. It might not be intended as such, but think about it. That means you are playing so well people think you are cheating.
14 minutes ago, SumNoob said:
Getting called a cheater when you a re not cheating is a compliment. It might not be intended as such, but think about it. That means you are playing so well stupid people think you are cheating.
FTFY
There are other ways people can compliment you. I’m a pay to win player that makes me good right ?
21:10:19.203 CHAT| < PRIVATE From>[DiscipleAzzy] you paid real money to send stupid messages like that???
21:11:12.418 CHAT| < PRIVATE From>[DiscipleAzzy] more stupid messages, really?
21:12:44.774 CHAT| < PRIVATE From>[DiscipleAzzy] and more stupid messages
21:13:03.270 CHAT| < PRIVATE From>[DiscipleAzzy] does that build up you ego?
21:17:41.339 CHAT| < PRIVATE To >[DiscipleAzzy] lol yes I paid for those messages
21:17:52.833 CHAT| < PRIVATE To >[DiscipleAzzy] When you kill me you can show me your message
21:17:58.207 CHAT| < PRIVATE To >[DiscipleAzzy] sounds fair
21:18:38.726 CHAT| Join channel <#battle_22602688_2> (Same team he was captain)
21:18:53.686 CHAT| < PRIVATE To >[DiscipleAzzy] good luck I ll cover you
21:19:08.464 CHAT| < PRIVATE From>[DiscipleAzzy] pay to win Adam West
Combat logs
21:09:47.073 CMBT | Reward AdamWest Ship_Race2_S_T3_Faction2 721 experience for kill DiscipleAzzy
21:10:52.561 CMBT | Reward AdamWest Ship_Race2_S_T3_Faction2 721 experience for kill DiscipleAzzy
21:12:27.914 CMBT | Reward AdamWest Ship_Race2_S_T3_Faction2 721 experience for kill DiscipleAzzy
There should be a section in the forums for Private messages like these. I would follow that thread.
The one in my sig has to be my favourite ”)
But I get other compliments, mostly in russian. Ermmm… maybe… maybe they weren’t actually complitments… XD
On 10/2/2016 at 11:16 AM, Shotan said:
I’m now going to make a sweeping judgement to this game’s player base using your standards.
98% of the players have a bad attitude and should just be banned forever. The other 2% should be encouraged to be pointed out for their flaws until they get it right, because all their flaws are common but not bad enough to be removed. The few who make above the <1% statistic outside of everyone else are the perfect role models and we should all look up to them.
I guess I must be so privileged to be a member of staff, huh. Everyone should just be like me!
player skill has no bearing on their ability to spend money, and how people play is relatively none of your business unless you’re a part of an organized group of individuals who practice and work hard to achieve wins versus other organized groups in a structured and fair playing environment which only hosts organized groups. Of course if you see someone do something terrible or make bad decisions you’re free to call them out on it if you know a better way of doing things, but in this case you’re also obliged to inform them as helpfully as possible on what as detailed as possible if they inquire otherwise you’re just being overly critical. Although most of the time they’ll just get really defensive because they’re like I said, ignorant of their mistake. You’re also taking what I said completely out of context I suggest you calm down and stop straw manning so hard to protect who knows what because as funny as I find it I’m not sure if you’re aware it’s because of the embarassment I feel for you.
On 10/2/2016 at 6:12 AM, millanbel said:
Present for you
Wow you sure pranked me good with that gag gift, what a meme lol xD!!
On 10/4/2016 at 3:41 PM, millanbel said:
The one in my sig has to be my favourite ”)
But I get other compliments, mostly in russian. Ermmm… maybe… maybe they weren’t actually complitments… XD
I get a lot of “compliments” from russians. Yesterday was a mixed bag, one wanted to know what I was using and the other used something I had to go to russian chat to get a translation for. It wasn’t a very nice thing.
On 10/4/2016 at 1:22 PM, AdamWest said:
There are other ways people can compliment you. I’m a pay to win player that makes me good right ?
21:10:19.203 CHAT| < PRIVATE From>[DiscipleAzzy] you paid real money to send stupid messages like that???
21:11:12.418 CHAT| < PRIVATE From>[DiscipleAzzy] more stupid messages, really?21:12:44.774 CHAT| < PRIVATE From>[DiscipleAzzy] and more stupid messages
21:13:03.270 CHAT| < PRIVATE From>[DiscipleAzzy] does that build up you ego?21:17:41.339 CHAT| < PRIVATE To >[DiscipleAzzy] lol yes I paid for those messages
21:17:52.833 CHAT| < PRIVATE To >[DiscipleAzzy] When you kill me you can show me your message
21:17:58.207 CHAT| < PRIVATE To >[DiscipleAzzy] sounds fair
21:18:38.726 CHAT| Join channel <#battle_22602688_2> (Same team he was captain)
21:18:53.686 CHAT| < PRIVATE To >[DiscipleAzzy] good luck I ll cover you21:19:08.464 CHAT| < PRIVATE From>[DiscipleAzzy] pay to win Adam West
Combat logs
21:09:47.073 CMBT | Reward AdamWest Ship_Race2_S_T3_Faction2 721 experience for kill DiscipleAzzy
21:10:52.561 CMBT | Reward AdamWest Ship_Race2_S_T3_Faction2 721 experience for kill DiscipleAzzy
21:12:27.914 CMBT | Reward AdamWest Ship_Race2_S_T3_Faction2 721 experience for kill DiscipleAzzyThere should be a section in the forums for Private messages like these. I would follow that thread.
it counts as name and shame otherwise I would be doing it here. I’ve been called a wallet warrior in numerous games and I even got a few of those while flying spark. I wouldn’t exactly disagree with them because premium ships are very advantageous but it’s hardly the source of my performance.
On 2.10.2016 at 5:01 AM, Battlecruiser_NA said:
this too. I feel like i need to buy a hard drive and dashcam all my games just to protect myself against angry democracy bans.
No such thing as “democracy ban”. Players can just report suspected player but then the whole review machine starts.