Inconsistent Daily Broker Rewards?!

8 hours ago, soked said:

We would understand if you came up with the “new schedule” in the first place and showed us that it would take, say, 90 days to gather enough Electrum to build a destroyer but when you do it like this, announcing something proudly and then reducing it to half, I can’t find the good will under that decision.

315 got down to 275. Its 40  electrum less (3,3333 refined electrum).

8 hours ago, Koromac said:

P2W also means another thing. If you can only get something in the Store, which isn’t available by any other means.

In this case, some of the rare resources.

By that definition you are including cosmetics and other visual perks that have no performance impact in gameplay. You must add the part of the advantage to make it P2W. Getting resources others cant get is P2W, but remember, SC has always added missions as only mean to get resources (fast) and then open other ways to obtain them.

5 hours ago, AnunnakiHunters said:

sorry but koromac is right.i think. existing p2w definition is according to  what he described in my view.

did you ever argument against wht devs or gajin  told swifter ? am not sure as i am not often in Forum  but till now i saw you always supporting them. this is ok as no crime but  throws a bad light on your activity here in my view.  a discussion board populated with “yes” tellers makes not much sense. Only the exchange of opinions that differ is worth a discussion. If other opinions(which are correctly and  detailed worked out) are always downed cause they differ from the devs or gaijins meaning i have to ask me wht all this here is?. remembers me a  box fights  in which the winner is already announced before the battle ends. has not much use for me as such Forums should be the way to communicate with devs and not a place to let down own meaning cause always same tell contrary of what is intended… now i understand why the Forum is not really well populated. ist no “real” discussion board as discussions and ohter meaning are  not wanted.

This is again only my personal meaning and not eternal truth for all. not intended by me to discredit anyone. is to Point out why many hesitate to tell here wht they really believe in and wht they think. a communication channel to devs and Publisher should be used as such. not only as Auto Applause platform for all what is introduced and done in game.

I agree devs dont answer all thats placed over the table (because they dont understand, cant talk about it, its a complex matter, only comes from a small portion of the player base, etc), but there are big discussion instances in the community itself, some of them have big influence over SC course. And of course devs always have the last words since they are who have most power (they take the desitions, implement changes, etc)…you can tell your neightbour to change the painting of his house, but he is the only one who (legally) can, since he owns it and you dont. In an organization as this, money and hierarchy are aspects you cant ignore. Nevertheless, you can still argue on ideas against the dev team…and make a change through it (if properly argumented and done politely). I often show some of my ideas that are against SC and some of them are heard. SC is made of humans, so theres always room for mistakes and corrections.

21 hours ago, xKostyan said:

If original text table had a mistake simply from human error and incapability to copy-pasta properly, that is technically not a nerf.

Close. Patch originaly was planned on another day of the week. That’s where the mistakes from. Now their fixed and brought to normal

Cin? Are you trolling us? Do you think we are stupid/dumb as hell???
What for nonsense do you write?

>>on another day of the week<<
Originally planned for 6th right?
This mean by ‘table’ 5 from 4th and 15 from 5th not given.
That’s 20 electrum.
NOT 40!

27 minutes ago, Lord_Xenon said:

Cin? Are you trolling us? Do you think we are stupid/dumb as hell???
What for nonsense do you write?

>>on another day of the week<<
Originally planned for 6th right?
This mean by ‘table’ 5 from 4th and 15 from 5th not given.
That’s 20 electrum.
NOT 40!

Can you please stop be so aggressive ?

3 minutes ago, Swifter43021 said:

Can you please stop being so aggressive?

Ftfy. English is hard.

And any potential loss in resources could’ve considered a “nerf” to mission rewards if the missions are not extended. Wether the devs are willing to admit this or not isn’t of concern. The people’s word is final in these instances. When something is taken, it is not a debate about how much was taken, but wether or not it was.

It was.

2 minutes ago, TheDarkRedFox said:

Ftfy. English is hard.

I’m not english.

 

2 minutes ago, TheDarkRedFox said:

And any potential loss in resources could’ve considered a “nerf” to mission rewards if the missions are not extended. Wether the devs are willing to admit this or not isn’t of concern. The people’s word is final in these instances. When something is taken, it is not a debate about how much was taken, but wether or not it was.

It was.

Nerf doesn’t mean you can be aggressive. 

He said Cin? Are you trolling us? Do you think we are stupid/dumb as hell???
What for nonsense do you write?

 

On some forum games, peoples are banned for less then this.

7 minutes ago, Swifter43021 said:

I’m not english.

 

Nerf doesn’t mean you can be aggressive. 

He said Cin? Are you trolling us? Do you think we are stupid/dumb as hell???
What for nonsense do you write?

 

On some forum games, peoples are banned for less then this.

Good thing we’re not in those game forums.

And for aggressiveness/abrasiveness, there is never an excuse unless someone I just being a tard and needs it. Cinnamon Bun never deserves it.

Never.

 

I’m just stating facts of the discussion.

It’s a legit questions I asked.
He wrote a phrase, that isn’t basing on fact(can be each day of the week AFTER original patch).
And for that they reduced the reward.

  1. Why he don’t state the exact date?
  2. Why they didn’t communicate BEFORE that they did a mistake + say sorry?
  3. Why they didn’t leave it as it is?

Sorry, but you have to be aggressive against devs to get to something nowadays as they show more than once such behavior.

Alrighty just not Cinnamon Bun.

I don’t really understand why they reduced it, and I agree that’s it’s sad. Especially since it’ll take a lot of time to get one after the event.

 

But anyway, being so aggressive bother me A LOT. I’m not working on SC, but I’m a dev too (an app with 3 millions users). And many. MANY. guys complains for nothing but NOBODY say thanks. Devs are humans too they don’t like insults. They also don’t have the rights to do whatever they want. Still, most devs spend hours on their free time (not paid) to update/fix faster. 

 

So, okey, you don’t like something. I can understand.

But it’s not a reason to disrespect their hard work, and when you like something you can say “Thanks” too.

Wait,did they also modify the in-game rewards?We cannot see what we received anymore(could be good for the record)so if the in-game rewards werent modified there was no nerf.

1 minute ago, xXThunderFlameXx said:

Wait,did they also modify the in-game rewards?We cannot see what we received anymore(could be good for the record)so if the in-game rewards werent modified there was no nerf.

The rewards weren’t nerfed, the number of rewards was. They opened the missions before we could do them so everyone was unable to do a number of them, hence the weird reward list.

Well,as long as we can build our DDs right away there is no reason for you to get your rustling.giz.

3 minutes ago, xXThunderFlameXx said:

Well,as long as we can build our DDs right away there is no reason for you to get your tits rustling.giz.

Well the thing is that because we are missing out on several missions, the total electrum gained will be less than required to build the dessy.

I still hope that the “Send your destroyers to war” will last forever. 

 

Because it would mean that a r14 will take only a bit more time to craft then a r11, BUT will require to have already one destroyer. 

 

So instead of the 8 months of farming with no requirements, it’ll take 4 months but requires another destroyer (like standard ships). 

Just now, TheDarkRedFox said:

Well the thing is that because we are missing out on several missions, the total electrum gained will be less than required to build the dessy.

What about adding up the Nicholas Gage HC rewards?8 extra per day should do the trick,assuming you did it almost daily…

21 minutes ago, xXThunderFlameXx said:

What about adding up the Nicholas Gage HC rewards?8 extra per day should do the trick,assuming you did it almost daily…

Nah,you get ~300 from the dailies and 240 from Gage (considering you have both r8 and r11 destroyers). 

So you still miss 200 electrum.   

 

 

And that’s without taking into account the Berrylium and neodium required. 

 

2 hours ago, Lord_Xenon said:

It’s a legit questions I asked.
He wrote a phrase, that isn’t basing on fact(can be each day of the week AFTER original patch).
And for that they reduced the reward.

  1. Why he don’t state the exact date?
  2. Why they didn’t communicate BEFORE that they did a mistake + say sorry?
  3. Why they didn’t leave it as it is?

Sorry, but you have to be aggressive against devs to get to something nowadays as they show more than once such behavior.

With all due respect. Is that how you normally form your questions? By yelling? Or insulting people? They had a schedule already in game and someone did the export from that and then realized that it was released on the wrong day. Made a mistake with copy paste and that’s it. If you are tracking rewards - they are exactly as in the corrected schedule. So answering your questions:

  1. it was already stated that the patch was supposed to be on 6th, was on 4th, from look on the tables that was the difference.

  2. you mean “we are sorry, but we will make a mistake in the next patch”?

  3. they actually did. Rewards in game are as they were - unchanged. I don’t know if you want to push it to them, knowing that it will probably be put in low priority queue, which means being implemented in 4-6 months. So you can have event as they planned now, or cancelled and moved down to pipeline by few months, when all destroyers will be already few months in the game and everyone will whine about electrum being so hard to gather. 

Also once again, please act like civilized human being. Even when you don’t agree, there are ways to communicate it in proper manner, without insulting someone. 

Koromac made a topic about inconsistency between rewards in game and on the webpage, CF explained why.

22 minutes ago, Swifter43021 said:

Nah,you get ~300 from the dailies and 240 from Gage (considering you have both r8 and r11 destroyers). 

So you still miss 200 electrum.   

 

 

And that’s without taking into account the Berrylium and neodium required. 

Alright,math time:

I already have 118 HCs,the goal is 720,so im still missing 602,that means that I still can get 195 HC from the Brokers and 168 from Gage,that means we will be left with 239 more to gain,too bad we cannot do marathons for those,but extra 42 of them wont do too much as we all know containers are trash and we will obiviously get only 2 each day,even if our lucky star will go supernova with luck and we might get 5 or even ONE,exactly,ONE hole HC,again,not too much help,so what are we going to do about the missing 239 pieces?The current OS grinding system is getting out of topic as this might be EVEN more rarer than berry(as all the mats can drop from the same ore)so the game will die by the time we will gather enough from there,if they will implement star marathons too,as I said,wont help much even by now,so this “new” way(in case the Gage wasnt it)should help us get the destroyers in less than a month or so,Im not minding the time as long as the grind method itself is not dull asf.

1 hour ago, xXThunderFlameXx said:

So what are we going to do about the missing 239 pieces?

No one said how long those Electrum related missions will last ![:)](<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/001j.png “:)”) Only the ones regarding live crystals are on timer as you can see. I still hope that in a month we will have another schedule for broker missions ![:)](<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/001j.png “:)”) Cinnamon was mentioning something that this will be a looong event.