I went from Jericho to Fed in six minutes even, and that was getting a little lucky and finding enough fuel early to not stop later. Going back took me seven and a half, partly for fuel.
I don’t have a problem with 800k to change docking stations, but 800k to change factions for contracts is insane. I’m guessing the devs were thinking of limiting monocrystal farming rather than loyalty grinding.
Like everything else.
Then farm or pay, like in every other F2p in existence.
200k was still high but it worked. 800k is just ignoring players.
Crystals are rare. Who would sell them for cheap filthy credits? Your suggestion makes little sense. They already sell them for GS.
100 millions to get 100 monocrystals is more than just fair. It’s just!
I could buy 10 T5 ships for that price! To be honest, you can only upgrade one T5 weapon to mk V once with it. You need 70 of them.
I would still say, that the price is fair enough, even if you could invest regular credits.
Credits without resources are not worth much. Selling price for them isn’t 100000 credits, but lousy 8000. Not even 10% of your investment would go back, but less than 1%, to be exact, 0,8%.
It’s not cheap at all. If it’s free to play, you should have the options to get them for free as well. Same for the Crew/Implants.
Did you forget the fact, if you want to get 5 million credits with GS conversion currency, you would need to pay 10000GS, which was/is almost one T5 premium ship.
That means that credits are extremely important, because you’re stuck without them completely. You can’t repair, buy or progress without them. Without GS you can, but not without those “cheap filty credits” as you call them.
I never actually wanted to sell monocrystals, but to convert credits to get them. I never said that, so I assume, you complained about credit price to obtain them or you simply misread my message.
That’s all. No hard feelings. That’s my point of view.
100 millions to get 100 monocrystals is more than just fair. It’s just!
You say that because you have several hundreds on your bank.
Did you forget the fact, if you want to get 5 million credits with GS conversion currency, you would need to pay 10000GS, which was/is almost one T5 premium ship.
Irrelevant, no one in their right mind would use that feature. So the point is not valid at all.
That means that credits are extremely important, because you’re stuck without them completely. You can’t repair, buy or progress without them. Without GS you can, but not without those “cheap filty credits” as you call them.
They are important for players who need to buy something. In your case, you have if not everything almost everything, that’s why credits are worthless for you, and that’s why you can afford throwing a hundred million of them for monocrystals. But again, that doesn’t mean it’s a fair trade.
GS in the other hand are the right money to pay for monocrystals since it’s the money that prevents you for grinding.
Again, if you’re not willing to pay real money for them, just do the daily grind and you will get them eventually.
You say that because you have several hundreds on your bank.
Irrelevant, no one in their right mind would use that feature. So the point is not valid at all.
They are important for players who need to buy something. In your case, you have if not everything almost everything, that’s why credits are worthless for you, and that’s why you can afford throwing a hundred million of them for monocrystals. But again, that doesn’t mean it’s a fair trade.
GS in the other hand are the right money to pay for monocrystals since it’s the money that prevents you for grinding.
Again, if you’re not willing to pay real money for them, just do the daily grind and you will get them eventually.
How much time will I have to grind to get 8400 monocrystals to be able to build all top secret projects?
So far I got over 840. Enough for 2 ships.
I will do simple math here. Correct me, if I am wrong.
How much time will I have to “grind” to be able to obtain just the ships, not any mark V’s.
Materials are not the problem. I can get them.
10 ships, each type and role. Jericho will have one more, Torpedo Frigate. Rank 14 ship will be probably moved to rank 15.
I day = 9 monocrystals (premium license)
10 days=90 monocrystals (premium license)
100 days = 900 monocrystals (premium license)
So, I would have to constanly play free daily missions for over 3 months of time to get 2 prototype ships (premium license).
almost 14 months to get all 10 ships with a free option. Well, it’s free, so I can’t really complain, I will just have to play it more. 
Of course, I could also spend money and maybe I will, but not before the new year.
Still, crew option is still payable. I want to get maximum efficiency, so I guess I’ll buy those slots as well.
Tell me, is every slot 2000GS or it gets higher?
Thanks, Resi.
How much time will I have to grind to get 8400 monocrystals to be able to build all top secret projects?
So far I got over 840. Enough for 2 ships.
I could simple math here. Correct me, if I am wrong.
How much time will I have to “grind” to be able to obtain just the ships, not any mark V’s.
Materials are not the problem. I can get them.
10 ships, each type and role. Jericho will have one more, Torpedo Frigate. Rank 14 ship will be probably moved to rank 15.
I day = 9 monocrystals (premium license)
10 days=90 monocrystals (premium license)
100 days = 900 monocrystals (premium license)
So, I would have to constanly play free daily missions for over 3 months of time to get 2 prototype ships (premium license).
almost 15 months to get all 10 ships with free option. Well, it’s free, so I can’t really complain, I will just have to play it more.
Of course, I could also spend money and maybe I will, but not before the new year.
Still, crew option is still payable. I want to get maximum efficiency, so I guess I’ll buy those slots as well.
Tell me, is every slot 2000GS or it gets higher?
Thanks, Resi.
And what’s the problem there? The craft-able ships are a whim and you can either wait patiently of pay a lot of GS to get them. They are sightly superior than the top end ships of their faction because you can decide what to put them, so they must be expensive and very hard to them. What’s the problem? If we allowed all wealthy veterans to get them for insane amount of credits they would lose their value.
Also every slot is 2k GS, they don’t increase. Total of 6k.
And what’s the problem there? The craft-able ships are a whim and you can either wait patiently of pay a lot of GS to get them. They are sightly superior than the top end ships of their faction because you can decide what to put them, so they must be expensive and very hard to them. What’s the problem? If we allowed all wealthy veterans to get them for insane amount of credits they would lose their value.
Also every slot is 2k GS, they don’t increase. Total of 6k.
The problem can be, if there are some nerf changes implemented later, your ship’s build can be affected in a bad way.
If you mess up your build, you can deconstruct it, but you lose resources, because you do not get them all back.
There should be an option, like duplicator that allows you to reset your ship’s build once for free for either if you buy that with GS or once per month or something.
Just in case…
How do you take racist jokes/references? Cause i sure have one for you.
How do you take racist jokes/references? Cause i sure have one for you.
I beg you pardon?
Spill it out, but watch for fire rain.
Takes ~3 minutes to change factions
Average is 4.30 empire to jerry is the fastest, but fed to empire or jerry is about 5 min considering fueling times
Confirmed, not a perfect warp but takes about 4 minute to travel between Empire and Jerico. Didn’t test Fed but 5 minute sounds legit. Total time including refuel and loading would be around 10 minutes to switch twice for daily mission.
I did the same as milf a few days ago and then forgot about it ._.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-5_9FVcKCA
4.27 including time to pick up fuel from the spawning point.
fed to empire hanger took 5.11
recon used is only 687m/s, but with 700m/s and some pactise with when to warp, people could probably shave 30 seconds off. all 3 missions + travel time can be done in about 13-16 minutes as long as you do not get the transport ship missions. however travelling 5 minutes each time you want to change contract in the middle of a pvp spree is not fun
4.27 including time to pick up fuel from the spawning point.
fed to empire hanger took 5.11
When you spawn in Stripped Deposits, on your left would be a closer fuel depot, but it probably has less fuel.
A potential abuse is taking some unused premium ship into Invasion, self destructing, and then taking your main ship to Invasion. Your 100 fuel cells will be there. If it’s premium with no missiles or ammo you’ll have no costs for doing so other than the five seconds it takes. It might not take you all the way but it can get you close to a fast pit stop.
It probably needs reported to the devs. But all those accidental invasion launches with the wrong ship or when I wanted PvE kind of piss me off with the ammo and missile replenish costing 15k for two seconds of flight.
What is all the fuss about the monocrystals?
Devs just confirmed that there will be no secret project ships anywhere below T5 anyway and unclear about T4/5 separation.
So we have 1 huge r10-r16 tier that consists no more than 15% of the playerbase, while on 1-7 there is about 30% and the rest is in r8-9.
None of the new players will go from r9 to r10 because of 2 things :
Hangar travel cost.
Having to face R15-16 ships fully purple on their white non-synergized r10. (If they were even a bit competent to get to 1301 dsr, which is too easy)
So we have 1 huge r10-r16 tier that consists no more than 15% of the playerbase, while on 1-7 there is about 30% and the rest is in r8-9.
None of the new players will go from r9 to r10 because of 2 things :
Hangar travel cost.
Having to face R15-16 ships fully purple on their white non-synergized r10. (If they were even a bit competent to get to 1301 dsr, which is too easy)
What are you talking about??? Rank 9 is when hangar travel costs are their most expensive, and yet still mandatory! Once you hit Rank 10, BAM, you can fly to another station for FREE because you can cross frontier space!
Yeah, fully purple ships vs. no-synergy white ships is a downer, but that will always be a problem. It’s a fundamental flaw in how they designed game progression, and unfortunately, won’t be changed now that we are in 1.0.
Fly for free you say.
Having 2 hours to play a day, maybe and spending 20 of the 120 minutes in open space to change stations (remember, newbie with r9 who just got his white federation recon) then out of the 100 minutes left 60-80 are games and the rest is que.
So, your point is moot for a player who just wants to play PvP and do not bother with PvE or traveling.
I much rather have the “free” option where there is 5 minute timer and I pop into the other station.
I can go to forums and sites and fill my time as I do when the que times are bad, but I am basically forced to fly in a mode I find no enjoyment playing at all.
EDIT : P.S. Soon there will be even more ambushers on gates that are just watching their monitors, sipping coffee and waiting for some newbie on his white R10 to pop up, so they can return him back to the station, so he have to go again, pay a huge sum of credits or spend GS for travel instead of ships/license or something that is worth it.
Do not get me wrong. It is too hard to ambush us, veteran players. But we also have couple of millions stashed, so we can trow some out of frustration, but newbie who have so many ships to buy - no.
I much rather have the “free” option where there is 5 minute timer and I pop into the other station.
I can go to forums and sites and fill my time as I do when the que times are bad, but I am basically forced to fly in a mode I find no enjoyment playing at all.
Ok, now I’m confused. Are we talking about this?: “None of the new players will go from r9 to r10 because of 2 things”
Or your personal preference for PvP over everything else? Because I was talking about the new players who are still at Rank 9. You seem to be talking about your personal preferences hiding behind the justification: “just because I don’t want to do this, nobody does.”
It is a completely free option that takes 5 minutes of flying, tops if you use the Cruise Engine Module or a Recon. Compared to Crews, which have no alternative other than GS, this is great. We can either pay GS, Credits, or fly for FREE at the cost of 5 minutes of your time. That’s pretty nice.
Again, the players who have it the worst off are the Rank 9 players who have no other option but to pay exorbitant amounts of credits to get their vouchers. If you won’t use the free option as a Rank 10 player, there is no reason to complain, as that is the choice you have made.
Again, the players who have it the worst off are the Rank 9 players who have no other option but to pay exorbitant amounts of credits to get their vouchers. If you won’t use the free option as a Rank 10 player, there is no reason to complain, as that is the choice you have made.
Maybe their R10’s are frigates because those are easiest to grind in PvE. Has anyone tried seeing how long it’ll take in a Empire or Jericho frigate?
800K is too expensive. Period.
Revert it back please.
Maybe their R10’s are frigates because those are easiest to grind in PvE. Has anyone tried seeing how long it’ll take in a Empire or Jericho frigate?
Ok, granted. Maybe if you’ve got nothing but a frigate, you have a legitimate problem.
However, most of the veterans posting here have been around long enough that they should have at least one Rank 10 Fighter or Interceptor.
250,000 credits sounds about better to switch factions. Hands down the main problem.
Also, I rather shell out 10,000,000 credits as a grind as an alternate option to the crew system. OR get a discount on it.