As most of you know (Fox) my last video on this module being absolutely overpowered was not “Clear” according to many of you. Here’s an on-purpose demonstration of me getting one hit-killed against something solid. May I remind you… nearly all areas people hide, a Waz’Got can abuse with this module and even get a trifecta crash kill. Doing this on a destroyer no longer works though! Time to nerf once and for all. SLOW PUSH! I’ve seen time and time again of this module being used in maps like, Abandoned Complex, people hide in the complex, Was Got’s flying in, using temp shield, or even Green Mist and just crashing people. I still have yet to record such battle but by now… you all understand this issue. I did this on purpose! Older pilots wont be as stupid as this but it still poses great unfairness in any battle for newer pilots. In this same battle 2 people got crashed into an asteroid near the beacon.
There are many things wrong with wazgot (and there are a lot) but this isn’t one of them. The have to fly into enemy lines and you can easily avoid it still
It’s only broken in the tube map. On every other map this is not a problem
First the bigger problems should be addressed. Like how broken the heals are… they should be just slightly better than eclipse (which is still powerful since this is a laser) but the current healing is ridiculous
There are many things wrong with wazgot (and there are a lot) but this isn’t one of them. The have to fly into enemy lines and you can easily avoid it still
It’s only broken in the tube map. On every other map this is not a problem
First the bigger problems should be addressed. Like how broken the heals are… they should be just slightly better than eclipse (which is still powerful since this is a laser) but the current healing is ridiculous
You don’t even understand. Every map has solid objects somewhere. This module? Isnta kills you on then. Do not say a R11/15 Wazzi is EASY to kill alone.
As most of you know (Fox) my last video on this module being absolutely overpowered was not “Clear” according to many of you. Here’s an on-purpose demonstration of me getting one hit-killed against something solid. May I remind you… nearly all areas people hide, a Waz’Got can abuse with this module and even get a trifecta crash kill. Doing this on a destroyer no longer works though! Time to nerf once and for all. SLOW PUSH! I’ve seen time and time again of this module being used in maps like, Abandoned Complex, people hide in the complex, Was Got’s flying in, using temp shield, or even Green Mist and just crashing people. I still have yet to record such battle but by now… you all understand this issue. I did this on purpose! Older pilots wont be as stupid as this but it still poses great unfairness in any battle for newer pilots. In this same battle 2 people got crashed into an asteroid near the beacon.
1 minute ago, IFreakinLoveBass said:
You don’t even understand. Every map has solid objects somewhere. This module? Isnta kills you on then. Do not say a R11/15 Wazzi is EASY to kill alone.
One of the basic rules in this game is to play the map. Like in this video - you should attack from below. And yes, just avoid the obstacles. Also yes, Wazgot has almost no -self healing capabilities, you have tharga - 2 doomsdays would wreck that engie in no time.
25 minutes ago, _terrorblade said:
There are many things wrong with wazgot (and there are a lot) but this isn’t one of them. The have to fly into enemy lines and you can easily avoid it still
It’s only broken in the tube map. On every other map this is not a problem
First the bigger problems should be addressed. Like how broken the heals are… they should be just slightly better than eclipse (which is still powerful since this is a laser) but the current healing is ridiculous
Then brokk should be banned as it can heal almost twice as fast, has the same tankiness and has ability to self repair.
At this point Waz’Got is easier to build, but not to upgrade, while Brokk is hard to build but once you did it you can use the ship to full potential, they kinda balance eachother out.
I don’t see many brokks in t5. I usually only see wazgots doing this laser heal thing
But yes, these kind of heals should not be restricted to locked down ships that are really hard to get.
at the very least eclipse needs same heal amount (which would still be inferior to laser heal because you must lead eclipse)
P.S. if you’re comparing it to brokk you need to mention wazgot modules like teleport back ally which make it vastly superior
Well, Brokk is not that flexible, but it still can heal a group of allies in almost 3k range for 6k with a single drone, destroying any enemy device as a side effect, laser heals twice as fast.
Patron active defence on Waz’got is awesome, but very underutilised, also situational - as it can be used on a single ship with 30 seconds cooldown. So you cannot save your team if in trouble, only a single ship. It’s generally replaced with battle station at higher levels.
In comparison to eclipse:
fully upgraded R15 eclipse with iridium heatsink heals 1032 hull per second
WL13-EL - 596 hull then shield per second using 290 energy/second
WL13 1184 hull then shield using 440 energy/second
You asked about the same amount of heals for the eclipse - 2 iridium heatsinks will do exactly that - 204 shots per minute, each healing for 350 points that’s 1190 hull repair per second. The only disadvantage it has is that it doesn’t repair shields. So both Eclipse R15 and WL13 are healing almost twice as fast as Waz’got’s WL13-EL. So sorry, but no. Waz’got strength lays in flexibility, not healing.
As most of you know (Fox) my last video on this module being absolutely overpowered was not “Clear” according to many of you. Here’s an on-purpose demonstration of me getting one hit-killed against something solid. May I remind you… nearly all areas people hide, a Waz’Got can abuse with this module and even get a trifecta crash kill. Doing this on a destroyer no longer works though! Time to nerf once and for all. SLOW PUSH! I’ve seen time and time again of this module being used in maps like, Abandoned Complex, people hide in the complex, Was Got’s flying in, using temp shield, or even Green Mist and just crashing people. I still have yet to record such battle but by now… you all understand this issue. I did this on purpose! Older pilots wont be as stupid as this but it still poses great unfairness in any battle for newer pilots. In this same battle 2 people got crashed into an asteroid near the beacon.
I’ve been saved numerous times and seen enemy get teleported back even more. Very useful when used to call back a destroyer
battle station looks garbage in comparison (only upside being it decloaks tackler which I’m guessing will never get fixed)
I haven’t seen such action in few weeks. Maybe we are playing different levels then. 1st - why would destroyer go ahead and would need recalling? But ok, warping dessie back if it somehow get his own warp module destroyed 3km back can be useful.
Regeneration rates are too high, 8vs8, enemy team sticks together in group with 2 Waz Got and you simply can not win the battle, it does not matter what you try.
Battle Station, 1st it is not destroyed when Waz Got is stunned like it happens for heavy or sentry drone, 2nd it is not destroyed instantly when Waz Got dies, 3rd it shoots at invisible targets.
Waz Got itself can not be stunned with a ECM, feels like it never works.
Waz Got is a engineer, thus mainly healer class, its supposed to be weak and stay in the background. But heck no they just do most kills in many pvp battles.
A fix is also needed for Green Mist, once activated ships become transparent but do not lose bomb.
I hope they give Elly. command a skill that removes all debuffs at the entire map forever. There are so many area of effect xxxx and debuffs now, so that close combat in big pvp battles has become a pain in the xxxx.
Regeneration rates are too high, 8vs8, enemy team sticks together in group with 2 Waz Got and you simply can not win the battle, it does not matter what you try.
Battle Station, 1st it is not destroyed when Waz Got is stunned like it happens for heavy or sentry drone, 2nd it is not destroyed instantly when Waz Got dies, 3rd it shoots at invisible targets.
Waz Got itself can not be stunned with a ECM, feels like it never works.
Waz Got is a engineer, thus mainly healer class, its supposed to be weak and stay in the background. But heck no they just do most kills in many pvp battles.
A fix is also needed for Green Mist, once activated ships become transparent but do not lose bomb.
I hope they give Elly. command a skill that removes all debuffs at the entire map forever. There are so many area of effect xxxx and debuffs now, so that close combat in big pvp battles has become a pain in the xxxx.
I would suggest reading this thread. Waz’got has the worst healing abilities in T5. Period. Half the healing speed of the Brokk, 70-80% healing speed of the Naga. Wazg’got cannot heal itself in reasonable time and when healed by another ship - that healing comes with penalty. Battle station can be hacked by ECM using system hack. Waz’got can be disabled by normal ECM modules (it can have 15% controlling effects reduction node, but almost no one is using it). The only real thing that shouldn’t be there is the tracking of cloaked ships by a battle station - this one is under review. And regarding Gravi Wave this comment from the chat.log sums it up:
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is [Gravi-wave 15] damage bugged ?? it seems to only actually do 1/4th of the damage listed ??
Also - no if Wazg’got would be designed primary as a healer class, those heals should be at least on par with T-Rex… It’s a multirole frigate with healing capabilities - similar to Phoenix - and it’s only useful starting with R10. In R9 Styx can beat Waz’got every single time. In R8 - Phoenix can do the same. Lower ranks - sorry, didn’t check.
Green Mist - it’s not a cloak, ships are still visible on radar IIRC.
…Here’s an on-purpose demonstration of me getting one hit-killed against something solid. May I remind you… nearly all areas people hide, a Waz’Got can abuse with this module and even get a trifecta crash kill…
If you don’t like Waz’got - avoid it 
