Countless times I’ve been into dogfights that are more epic than any game I’ve ever played, but then just to see the epic moment destroyed from some degenerate fat kid sitting in the back, not moving one inch just sniping or sending torpedos.
HOW COULD YOU BE SO INCREDIBLY STUPID TO RUIN ONE OF THE BEST GAMES with all these sniping tools (and by sniping I mean anything that can kill you from +5k) !?!??!?
No matter how beautiful and awesome I fly, it gets ruined when that fat kid in the back just stands sill and presses left mouse button or whatever the hell he does.
I’m using all reflexes and senses to evade asteroids and get into really awesome dogfights, just to see them ruined by these degenerate xxxxxxxx only here to F**K with other people’s experience.
HOW COULD YOU BE SO STUPID!"?!?!?!?!? I WANT TO LOVE THIS GAME but all these god forsaken fat a**hole unskilled xxxxxxxx just standing still at their spawn point protected by a few other degenerate xxxxxxxx doing the same thing RUINS THE GAME
If you are in an interceptor and you are getting hit by sniper fire you are doing it wrong… If you are in a fighter or a frigate and sniper fire actually does significant damage to you that you can’t get out of his line of sight before you die, you are also doing it wrong. If you are really really sick of snipers just get a ship that can close the distance quickly and take them out. You can get lots of free kills like this.
Honestly the snipers in Jericho frigates on my own team make me madder than anything else, half the time I end up dying to repeated friendly fire because the pilots are complete morons and don’t realize that detonating their missile in a pack of friendlies isn’t a good idea.
I don’t buy that crap everyone says blaiming it on the player… a very CLEAR error in the intelligence of the creators of this game, to include SUCH A STUPID thing in an otherwise flawless game.
I play tier2 federation fighter. Let’s say I decide to take on some of the fat xxxx snipers, I cloak and get close… then what ??? With my rapid plasma and missiles it sure takes a while to put som serious damage on that god damn frigate. They can EASILY take me out while I’m wrestling with the huge frigate.
EVERY SINGLE GAME INFECTED with all these jabba the hut players just camping in their own spawn point. How could such a low form of human being get so much role in this god damn game ??
Instead of flight skills, evation and hunts it now just becomes a cooooooonstant worrying about some xxxxxxx 10k away from the fight.
Completely ruining the game experience and also scaring ALOT of new players from actually dedicating themselves to this game. This is by far the most obvious reason this game will never be really globally successfull, due to the MASSIVELY STUPID implementation of sniping and long range torpedos and whatnot completely ruining this game for new players.
It gets better at T2 and above. But yes, they’re pretty annoying and don’t really fit into the game.
Honestly the problem is how tanky they are. There should be two kinds of frigates- brawler frigates that support their team and are hard to kill, and sniper frigates like what we have now but are glass cannons.
Hmm… and again i got a huge load of Icecream to share…
We all know that Disintegrator and Guided Torpedo is powerfull, for me they are to strong in general. They should be finishers not constant harrasment.
Right now we have a general Problem with the Frigates. They are the Ships with the highest Lifetime as well as they deal the most Damage. They are also allowed to harras to a Distance of 10km and up to 17.5km with the Torpedo fuel on the Jericho Ships.
I already put up a suggestion to reduce the power of them but the initial problem of the Lifetime and Close Range Damage output ist still present.
As far as i know the devs wont change Specials of the Ships as they are right now. There will be no replacement. We can talk about the Issue in the right manner but i share the thoughs of the comm here. They need a tune down.
As someone who both snipes, and has been on the receiving end of said sniper ships…
When a sniper is aiming at you, there is a moderately visible red beam. If you see it flicking around you, that means the sniper is trying to get a bead on your lead indicator. Start evading. Disintegrator beams have a (short) travel time, so if you jink they’re going to have a much harder time hitting you.
To re-iterate: people don’t take nearly enough evasive maneuvers - even if they know a sniper is taking potshots at them. Moving in a straight line is sheer suicide. The only thing more suicidal is approaching a sniper straight down their scope. I have had people do this to me and it is hilarious.
If a sniper is aiming at you and just shot you, you have about 3.5 seconds (60sec / 17rpm = 3.529etc. seconds) to find cover before another shot is probably coming your way. Try and mentally backtrace where the shot came from (if you saw it coming) and put a rock between the sniper and you. Backtracing is also a good way of spotting snipers that you can’t see on sensors if you’re hunting them as an interceptor.
If you’re attacking a sniper and coming at them from out of their scope, do not lock onto them until you are within range of using any weapons, rockets, and applicable offensive modules (e.g. Ion Beam). If you lock onto them before you start hitting them, they’ll likely snap out of snipe mode and turn to face you. Or just turn to face you and start sniping at you before you hit them. Then stop sniping and start shooting. Either way it’s not going to be pretty.
Empire Interceptors make outstanding sniper-killers.
I can’t imagine the developers themselves actually test running these bottom TIers AT ALL. Are they not seeing how incredibly broken their game is atm, at least on lower Tiers !?
I tried to get my friends into this game, but they gave up after a few games of total chaos and being obliterated by all this nonsense sniping and torpedos.
I can’t have a single decent dogfight without being interfered in some way by these god damn kids chasing free kills 15k away from the battle pressing left mouse button.
I want to see this game succeed and become big. I want to see the developers continue this game to perfection. But this HUUUUUGE flaw of letting lose these capitalist scumbag kids with snipers and torpedos chasing easy kills RUINS it
So god damn disgusting.
Someone from the dev team should create new account and try their game out on lower Tiers. It’s just absolutely RIDICULOUS
As someone who both snipes, and has been on the receiving end of said sniper ships…
When a sniper is aiming at you, there is a moderately visible red beam. If you see it flicking around you, that means the sniper is trying to get a bead on your lead indicator. Start evading. Disintegrator beams have a (short) travel time, so if you jink they’re going to have a much harder time hitting you.
To re-iterate: people don’t take nearly enough evasive maneuvers - even if they know a sniper is taking potshots at them. Moving in a straight line is sheer suicide. The only thing more suicidal is approaching a sniper straight down their scope. I have had people do this to me and it is hilarious.
If a sniper is aiming at you and just shot you, you have about 3.5 seconds (60sec / 17rpm = 3.529etc. seconds) to find cover before another shot is probably coming your way. Try and mentally backtrace where the shot came from (if you saw it coming) and put a rock between the sniper and you. Backtracing is also a good way of spotting snipers that you can’t see on sensors if you’re hunting them as an interceptor.
If you’re attacking a sniper and coming at them from out of their scope, do not lock onto them until you are within range of using any weapons, rockets, and applicable offensive modules (e.g. Ion Beam). If you lock onto them before you start hitting them, they’ll likely snap out of snipe mode and turn to face you. Or just turn to face you and start sniping at you before you hit them. Then stop sniping and start shooting. Either way it’s not going to be pretty.
Empire Interceptors make outstanding sniper-killers.
Actually going right down their scope is one of the best ways to kill a sniper, all you need to do is juke/strafe each time the disentegrator cooldown is up, he might get 1 or 2 hits in before you close the gap but then he is toast. If you have any tank at all you will barely notice the sniper shots that do land. I can usually fly right down the scopes of 2 or 3 snipers with my fighter and take them all out if they don’t have any interceptors or fighters defending them.
Actually going right down their scope is one of the best ways to kill a sniper, all you need to do is juke/strafe each time the disentegrator cooldown is up, he might get 1 or 2 hits in before you close the gap but then he is toast. If you have any tank at all you will barely notice the sniper shots that do land. I can usually fly right down the scopes of 2 or 3 snipers with my fighter and take them all out if they don’t have any interceptors or fighters defending them.
Ultimately, it depends on your evasion skill vs the sniper’s aim. With a healthy side of luck from lag compensation.
I don’t doubt it can work, but why take such an obvious risk? If someone comes to the sniper’s aid for some reason, the hits you have taken could be enough to make you vulnerable to their teammate(s).
Mind you, I go after frigates in an Empire interceptor, not a fighter. Jericho Fighters might be able to tank most of the thermal damage with their phase shields, but Interceptors of any flavour just don’t have that luxury.
But we have Ion Beams, which totally makes up for it if you ask me.
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I use the hydra mostly and here is thing. If you know how to bob and weave you can dodge my shot easily if your in a fighter.
I think the Jericho is wayyy wayy wayyy too OP due to distance and the fact it doesnt need a direct LOS with the enemy where the disintagrator does.
Yeah, but Zealots (and no doubt the rest of the missile-frigate line) are comically squishy, and as Tiers advance then things like Anti-Missile Systems and whatnot start coming into play. If you can find the things they melt under even EM-plasma fire. Rip the shields open with your plasma, punch a couple of thermal rockets at them, finish them off with plasma… and problem solved for about half a minute. Rinse and repeat until you drive one of them so angry they flip to a fighter or interceptor.
Bonus points if they come after you for revenge and you end up killing them again.
If someone is aiming at you with a dissy there is also a bright red spot on his location if you are looking at him.
That being said, I’ve had interceptors hit by a disintegrator before and still managed to close into his location, you just need the right modules, like say cloaking and emergency barrier?
My guess is the OP just started playing and is still not familiar with how to dodge a disintegrator shot and is feeling put on because he died.
So one has to get in the forums and learn how to get them friggin frigates from fanboys defending something so stupid and childish as sniper/torpedo bullshit. Isn’t that just a sign of something being completely broken?
You name very specific stuff, like changing factions and ships and specific tactics JUST FOR THOSE GOD DAMN SNIPERS/TORPEDOS! Doesn’t that ring a bell that MAYBY… just MAYBY something is broken in the game.
This fanboy talk, defending something so stupid as snipers and torpedos in this awesome space shooter, is completely meaningless. This is like CounterStrike AVP when it got quick scope in one of the stupid patches, only in this game they got an all open space to break your ship without you even getting your adrenalin pumped. Just sitting parked at spawn point like a sleeping turtle and press left mouse button. Disgusting
This game can be huge and really come close to perfection, and attract a large audience if it wasn’t for this STUPID element in the game.
It seems to me that Eboy just rants because his/her ship does not work good against some other ship, tho people have been giving advice how to counter snipers or w/e other ship.
This game is still in beta and there is and will be balance issues for some time. So dont just rant and try to give ideas to improve the game.
Blah blah, i dont like this and that wont get you very far…
I rant because I love this game to death, and to see it completely raped by this horribly unbalanced long range bullshittery is beyond me. This has to be an idea coming from some wretchid tradition in some other game, where it somehow was ok for fat degenerate free-kill-chasing kids camping at spawn point pressing left mouse button completely owning the battlefield while the rest fly like mosquitos chasing eachother. This HAS to be fixed as soon as possible before it scares more people away from this friggin beautiful game.
how many more times must I fly like friggin TOP GUN ace pilot around asteroids and being the most awesome pilot in the history of the human species, just to see it end with a guy +15k away… just camping, as if glued in space. Ridiculous, give me my epic moments without having to CONSTANTLY worry about line of sight of those camping xxxxxxxx.
Stop whining… Your post reads something like this:
Hi, I am a warrior. Mages are OP and they kill me easily, nerf them please. I am such a good player that I can totally destroy rogues and priests but mages are just completely imbalanced and ruin the game for me.
or it’s just simply you who’ve got used to a completely tasteless element in the game, and so naturally I become the whiner… and you are what? conservative prick who can’t see a very clear flaw in the game?