Few Suggestions

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Standard MMO Demographics. They vary slightly but most sources are 82-83%, with 46-48% of that being “PvP’s On conditions”. Basically, People will pvp if they dont lose anything.

LoL utilizes this principle.

 

Basically, there is two requirements for a pvp game to be successful. The lowest unskilled player must be competitive (Able and likely to kill the high end player). LoL uses this concept

if you are not careful you can do, but the room for skill allows the pro to walk all over a large amount of Aces (in this case 1v5) if they know what they are doing and are careful.

 

SC does not utilize these concepts. Its Power creep causes these things to be if not near impossible. Basically skill plays about a 2-5% Factor in this game. this game is more

about builds and knowing how to use them, as opposed to knowing what to do in what situation, in fact the only situation i can think of that properly applying in a large way

is interceptor vs interceptor duels (and very specific ones at that), most other times its push a button and walk away (Ie pulsar, cloak etc).

 

Counter strike has a FPS Niche, buts population is no where near, say LoL (the leading active population-based game in the world now, with around 32 million players a day).

LoL is the most successful game in the industry.

 

basically this means, if we really want this game to become popular and serious, the tiers need to go, and things need to be more radical. In other words we need to see things like

regenerative shielding that can completely negate weapons like RF Blasters, but in return are weak to things like singularity cannons. The tech variance and uniqueness needs

to be dialed up greatly. However the situation is a little more complex than this, and requires lots of changes.

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Thing is we don’t want 32 million players a day. We just want a normal population, like Warthunder. 

 

And Warthunder is not a xxxx open space farming PvE game.

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Who is We, Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

 

EVe is the lead Space mmo-sandbox.

Eve Leads the world in the largest population engagements.

Eve leads the world in time-dilation and packet handling technologies.

it is anything other then  “a xxxx open space farming PvE game”.

That statement alone shows your complete ignorance of that game.

 

All of that aside, I am not saying “Make SC eve” i am saying, That there is good concepts in it, and bad ones just like any-game.

tier base systems are the worst game design concept in the industry. They are destructive to a game and bring absolutely no good

If you wanna call a game “xxxx” Start with Star conflict and its antiquated, fail design concepts that the producer seems hell bent on

pushing (in sheer ignorance for that matter).

 

Fact is, when it comes to mmo-space games SC is not worth of eve farting in sc’s general direction.

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And when it comes to arcade space shooter games, EVE is not worth of Star Conflict’s farting.

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Yes, 70,000 peaks s, vs 2,000.

When it comes to success (popularity, or income) Star conflict is a total failure, and its that way because of this stupid concept

“Tanks in space”. Ironic that in the other thread people are advocating this should be unique, when its based on WoT

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Yes, 70,000 peaks s, vs 2,000.

 

The fact that you even dare to compare their population is enough proof of your ignorance  :sad:

 

How old is EVE? 11 years? And how old is Star Conflict? How many advertisement had/has EVE and what about Star Conflict? Why are you so dense? 

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How old is EVE? 11 years? And how old is Star Conflict? How many advertisement had/has EVE and what about Star Conflict? Why are you so dense? 

 

This game has adds all over dude. This game is 5-6 years old. And btw, IMO any game that does not take off in 6 months, is not going to be successful

unless some miracle happens.

 

You say its a joke, yet eve is leading the world in technological innovations, world records, 700 million income a year, and about 30 something times the population.

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This game has adds all over dude. This game is 5-6 years old. 

 

Proof of these so called ads comes from where?   The developers themselves have said they have yet to start an ad campaign.

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Proof of these so called ads comes from where?   The developers themselves have said they have yet to start an ad campaign.

This. People continuously ask for advertisements, but the devs have repeatedly said they won’t do so until the game is out of beta. Where are you seeing these ads besides the one YT version that came out 2 days ago on the dev blog(or was it patch notes discussion?). I haven’t seen anything on Steam for example. I found this game by looking at the list of F2P games in the catalog. Also what’s “all over”? 1 video? 15? Daily coverage by gaming websites? 

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Improve the amount of mine-able asteroids.

Improve the various types and increase the income for more rare ones (up to 10 million).

Create Mine-Known locations (Ie systems dedicated to it)

Create various graphics for the new asteroids

Create a Cruise speed that allows a ship regardless to fly at 650m/s but cannot fire weapons.

Improve Tutorial for Fuel cell knowledge

Add a message when players do not have cells upon leaving a station “remember to get fuel cells before a long trip”

Make Fuel cells buyable in the stations.

 

In other words… add easy button. 

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In other words… add easy button. 

 

Yes, Exactly. Because no everyone is “ZOMG UBER DUBER l337”.

Such players need to be able to kill the above at least 40% of the time.

 

If unskilled or new players are incapable of believing they are “capable of killing others” they will leave the game.

And it is radical to believe in a game with just “ZOMG UBER ELITES” in it. Undoubtedly such a game would have low popluation

considering such are about 0.8% Of the Real PvP Based population, which is around 12% Of all mmo players. In case you dont

get it, thats around a hundred thousand players at best.

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Basically, People will pvp if they dont lose anything.

LoL utilizes this principle.

 

Basically, there is two requirements for a pvp game to be successful. The lowest unskilled player must be competitive (Able and likely to kill the high end player). LoL uses this concept

if you are not careful you can do, but the room for skill allows the pro to walk all over a large amount of Aces (in this case 1v5) if they know what they are doing and are careful.

 

SC does not utilize these concepts. Its Power creep causes these things to be if not near impossible. Basically skill plays about a 2-5% Factor in this game. this game is more

about builds and knowing how to use them, as opposed to knowing what to do in what situation, in fact the only situation i can think of that properly applying in a large way

is interceptor vs interceptor duels (and very specific ones at that), most other times its push a button and walk away (Ie pulsar, cloak etc).

 

So you are not only delusional about the world, you have no idea about this game either. Cool. LoL is much more dependant on builds and knowledge than this game. This game, even a seriously screwed build can overpower bad pilots if handled properly. LoL is much more about your values than your skill.

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Please stay on topic. This thread is not meant to compare different games. Star Conflict is a game of its own. So is EVE. So is LoL. If you want to discuss other games, go to the [offtopic section](< base_url >/index.php?/forum/52-star-off-topic/).

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Yes, Exactly. Because no everyone is “ZOMG UBER DUBER l337”.

Such players need to be able to kill the above at least 40% of the time.

 

If unskilled or new players are incapable of believing they are “capable of killing others” they will leave the game.

And it is radical to believe in a game with just “ZOMG UBER ELITES” in it. Undoubtedly such a game would have low popluation

considering such are about 0.8% Of the Real PvP Based population, which is around 12% Of all mmo players. In case you dont

get it, thats around a hundred thousand players at best.

 

I just want to make sure I understand. You want to turn a game that is all about skill and twitch style combat into a macro button spam no skill game. Is this what you mean or did I miss something?

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I just want to make sure I understand. You want to turn a game that is all about skill and twitch style combat into a macro button spam no skill game. Is this what you mean or did I miss something?

 

Have you seen his Pilot Profile?

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Fuel was introduced to make every ship, no matter how fast, still needing to “search for food” out there.

It is easy to gather, but it makes a bit of logistical planning more efficient. Pitstops in secure sectors can do magic if you plan a voyage through the middle.

It also hinders you to jump around like crazy over the map.

 

Giving you fuel in stations is just like giving players in dayz a bagpack with fresh fruits and bacon at spawn. It defeats its own purpose, why introduce it at all, it’s not meant to be a credit sink. Not that I have anything against modules which enrich this sector, i don’t want to buy fuel. it’s free!

 

But yes, I support your idea to improve the tutorial about fuel knowledge.

 

Giving every ship a cruise speed makes ship classes useless. Big tanks need escort, but they have more storage space and firepower. We could introduce freighters who can warp from gate to gate while we are at it, and make every weapon auto hit, wait, that’s another game again.

 

The most successful games list changes yearly, but still the top 10 is usually full with nintendo titles. The hundred thousand players you describe in your generalization of the population however would be fairly enough to make this game pretty busy and fun, so we dont even need to beat “32 million”…

 

I have no problems with new maps more dedicated to finding loot (“mining”), nor any expansion into more exploration. But it’s not an economic game atm. - so “being a miner” in a world of fighter pilots is kinda strange.

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Not many people know about this yet but I actually own every game company in Russia and so know what the next thirty three patches for Star Conflict will contain. We really are going to do everything Uhmari asks for and even though I promised the Illuminati I wouldn’t, I’m giving him the super-secret method to see ahead of time!

Step 1: Uninstall Star Conflict.

Step 2: Install EVE.

Step 3: Don’t come back.

Enjoy your super-secret alpha-beta-gamma-delta-epsilon test experience, Uhmari!

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Please stay on topic. This thread is not meant to compare different games. Star Conflict is a game of its own. So is EVE. So is LoL. If you want to discuss other games, go to the [offtopic section](< base_url >/index.php?/forum/52-star-off-topic/).

 

It’s actually pretty on topic. If he makes an assumption how to improve game, it’s relevant how other games do it and in what are they similar to this.

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Well he was the only person who was allowed to post here according to him… So probably.

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Have you seen his Pilot Profile?

 

What profile? I just tried clicking on his forum name and I can’t. Even stranger, his -86 reputation miraculously reset to 0 earlier today. Did he just ragequit the forums and delete his profile?

 

Nevermind. I got my question answered.