Coming back, will i have to do 500 mission to get waz got?

I’m thinking about coming back, and my first goal is going to be getting the Waz.

 

So i’m wondering if it’s now easier than when we had to get 50 parts from crates, that could give you the same part, 50 times?

 

If it’s still the way to get hybrid ships, then does the market/trade is now viable? Can you now sell all those bp’s nobody wanted back then? To then buy the part you need?

 

My hdd is full, so before i delete another game for SC and check it by myself, i am asking here.

 

(former CptDoss/SgtDoss)

38 minutes ago, SoulDeliverer said:

I’m thinking about coming back, and my first goal is going to be getting the Waz.

 

So i’m wondering if it’s now easier than when we had to get 50 parts from crates, that could give you the same part, 50 times?

 

If it’s still the way to get hybrid ships, then does the market/trade is now viable? Can you now sell all those bp’s nobody wanted back then? To then buy the part you need?

 

My hdd is full, so before i delete another game for SC and check it by myself, i am asking here.

 

(former CptDoss/SgtDoss)

To get a Waz’got you need:

  • 2500 Alien Composite Blocks

  • 100 xenocrystals

  • 1500000 credits
     

so if you want to do this the really  lazy way you would only need to fly 8 missions with high efficiency gain (>5k each) during 8 days. Dunno where you got this 500 missions. 

No they changed everything with the Was’Got … now you are forced to get the special modules to unlock the next level . 5-8 unlock 8-12 unlock 12-14 unlock 14-15 unlock . you still need the cabin which is easy now  because they give you 350 parts for the cabin free every day . the boxes hold the other parts you need to unlock the nodes  … there is now a limit to all parts in inventory so you may spend a month destroying repetitive parts before you get to the 10 part limit on all of them . the  unlock special module nodes take  elite parts that drop maybe once a day if your lucky but are for sale on the trade system for 300-500 each … to unlock rank 15 Was’Got you will need 16 of these parts … it will also cost you between 150,.000,000 and 200,000,000 credits to unlock all the nodes you may want to fully equip your rank 15 Was’Got… and  somewhere around 1000 monocrystals to manufacture your modifiers and modules  after that …     so in short  , its probably not a good idea to delete your other game if you like it very much … because this game is dead now and wont be coming back to life any time soon . The level of greed and money grab has chased 75% of the player base away and the queue times reflect that opinion . 6-12 minute queue time for Defense Contract for example. 

27 minutes ago, niripas said:

To get a Waz’got you need:

  • 2500 Alien Composite Blocks

  • 100 xenocrystals

  • 1500000 credits
     

so if you want to do this the really  lazy way you would only need to fly 8 missions with high efficiency gain (>5k each) during 8 days. Dunno where you got this 500 missions. 

That’s just to craft it, lowest rank. What about the unique items needed to level it up?

I’ve played a lot of PVP, PVE, specops and co-op recently. And I still have 0 of both items that are required for the first special node

 

Even someone like koromac couldnt farm those. I don’t why you keep defending this

Ok, to resume, if i Waz’got that right.

 

Getting it, is now fairly simple(get cabin with blocks+free given) but the lvl’ing then you need the parts form the crate.

If i understood it right, it’s much better than it was and i’ll come back.

It was such a chore before.

Trying to get one of those was taking all the fun out of the game.(beside thar ga which i got to lvl 15 since it was much easier than the following ones)

I still can’t figure out how to get the specmod parts aside for the market. I’ve not seen a single container for them since they were announced.

wazgot isnt that hard to get since you can craft the cabin materials

 

however the node unlocks …

 

its the same strategy since forever, every time something gets made easier, another layer is added on top*

 

in a nutshell, thats also the problem why the game is not moving up in the world

fear of losing income is losing income.

 

if its just a delay strategy to avoid free players to get new stuff to easily, as an income model, they could simply standardize it however…

no need to act as if customers are still people from 2001, and new to the internet

 

no need to constantly “hide this process” or put it behind the illusion, that non paying players can get the things; while the end result here is that even paying players cant get the stuff reliably.

 

 

like mwos model: half a year you can only buy new robots with money, then with premium currency, then with ingame currency; all is announced. impatient people or hardcore fans preorder, buy packs, or grind/buy premium currency with hardcore games to get the robos as early as possible; patient people just wait until the robo is released for credits.

 

*)

like in the past:

remove rng item drop and create upgrades -> introduce upgrade pack drop and iridium

iridium into loot -> introcude monocrystals

monocrystals into loot -> introduce xenocrystals

 

or now:

xenocrystals into missions -> introduce crafting nodes

crafting nodes craftable through alien composites -> introduce noncraftable upgrade nodes

 

the big “evolution” of a standstill.

Waz’got is fairly easy to build, but the problem begins with unlocking nodes, for me the nodes are overpriced even in credit terms and there are other things like synergy, xenocrystals and node parts involved in unlocking nodes. The other issue is you can’t advance without unlocking the special module nodes for each tier even if you don’t want it and the spec mod nodes require several special parts that were used for unlocking taikin (taikin used one while wazgots nodes require like 4). I didnt bother farming it much because of costs nor am i interested in engineers but if i said some info that is wrong feel free to correct me.

1 hour ago, ORCA1911 said:

Waz’got is fairly easy to build, but the problem begins with unlocking nodes, for me the nodes are overpriced even in credit terms and there are other things like synergy, xenocrystals and node parts involved in unlocking nodes. The other issue is you can’t advance without unlocking the special module nodes for each tier even if you don’t want it and the spec mod nodes require several special parts that were used for unlocking taikin (taikin used one while wazgots nodes require like 4). I didnt bother farming it much because of costs nor am i interested in engineers but if i said some info that is wrong feel free to correct me.

 

 

Imo they should just ditch crates alltogether. Just add all crate items to random loot after battles.Replace normal useless credit drops with them. They sell for about the same amount in credits, and are actually useful.

 

All market values should have a min sell price of 10 GS.

 

Give higher credit gains after battles.

 

Reduce credit price for everything.

 

Reduce voucher cost for everything.

 

Make complete modules and weapons drop in loot again. (military/experimental models).

 

Make unlocks front-end, instead of continuous. Basically I mean make it hard to unlock something, but once you unlock it, it already has everything for it. So no awful blueprints for exclusive modules and weapons. (like the stupid destroyer module change)

 

Make Secret Projects ships the culmination of all the game’s special content. Make them harder to get, but give them all the modules and weapons and bonuses of all other ships of their class.

 

 

All of this would make the game much more popular and honestly more fun. You’d have a sense of accomplishment by unlocking new ships because they are actually fun and different when you get them. Not just “another job” to make useful.

Well, look it here: We have a winner!

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P.S.: I do not think I can do this again. My sanity is intact… for now.

4 hours ago, _terrorblade said:

That’s just to craft it, lowest rank. What about the unique items needed to level it up?

I’ve played a lot of PVP, PVE, specops and co-op recently. And I still have 0 of both items that are required for the first special node

 

Even someone like koromac couldnt farm those. I don’t why you keep defending this

He asked about getting Waz’Got - I answered. Even when it was introduced getting it was trivial, but a little tedious as it was requiring ~12h to get all parts for it. Now you can get all of them in about and hour of playtime. Getting it to R8 is pretty straightforward, it gets harder when you unlock ~2/3 nodes - then you will hit the nanoprojectors barrier. 
Dunno about you or Koro, I got my Waz’got built how I wanted to. Tasks like “win 15 specops” helped/

Spoiler

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Still some resources left ![:)](<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/001j.png “:)”)

 

There is only one problem - Waz’got is the second worst engineer in game (that title goes to Phoenix). Regarding healing or tankiness every other ship beats it. It’s only 2 unique modules that are saving it from getting the status “all equipment removed” 

1 hour ago, niripas said:

There is only one problem - Waz’got is the second worst engineer in game (that title goes to Phoenix). Regarding healing or tankiness every other ship beats it. It’s only 2 unique modules that are saving it from getting the status “all equipment removed” 

Too bad that I only realized that now. This ship needs some tweaks, including an altered version of all Ellydium healing/support modules. It’s not as OP as people yell. Not at all.

4 hours ago, TheDarkRedFox said:

All market values should have a min sell price of 10 GS.

C’mon, there are better alternatives than this one. 100 GS is fine by me. Problem is when it is like 300 GS or more.

 

 

1 hour ago, niripas said:

Dunno about you or Koro, I got my Waz’got built how I wanted to. Tasks like “win 15 specops” helped/

Yeah, sadly, I got bad luck with the crates. I only get like one useful item for every 100 containers that I open.

I always want a fully unlocked tree, no matter if I use it or not.

Sadly, survivability on Waz’Got is like 50% lower than the one on Octopus (1,1,3,3,1 build).

Engineer’s CPU module - Coolant distributor is a disappointment as well.

I tried various solutions with the Waz’Got but was not able to stand solo against a single Predator in Open Space.

I’m an engi fan. First line i got to r15 then every engineering ship followed(beside Octo).

Hence why i’m going for Waz, even if i just heard it’s one of the worst engi.

Most battles happens on Russian server and flying a regular interceptor is fine but tai’kin. No way. At least i couldn’t on the test server back then. Tho it was fun cuz pretty much everyone was wobbling around.

 

12 hours ago, SoulDeliverer said:

Hence why i’m going for Waz, even if i just heard it’s one of the worst engi.

 

The Was’Got can do 2 things  well … heal from a distance and kill interceptors   … you can make a hybrid version of that too  … its not a solo ship sense they nerfed the self heals  but if you play team based PVP you can park on a Vigilant and you wont die.

Picked the right time to come back. Giving out unique type of guard(gained by daily log in)…when they release the winter patch.

And i’m guessing the OS rework is gonna happens someday…

Thx for the valuable inputs provided by some of you guys.

 

Have a good hunting.

Ohh well, i’m kinda sad. More than half of my battles were 1v1 or 2v2… wth happened…

I hope it’s better tomorrow.