Anti Bots - Ingame !!!!!

I feel like the issue was completely deflect about to flying in T3 matches. If that is the issue then at a certain rank ban vets from flying in T3 and lower matches actually I would be all for that. I vote yes on that. I think it would be great.

 

I was approaching this about BOTs as many as 6 to 1 flying in matches.  It is constantly being complained about in open chat by newer players and vets. The game is broken when you fill matches with BOTS your now basically in PVE and people want to fight other people not NPCs.

 

I respect that if you don’t fly lower tiers you don’t care.

 

Personally, I enjoy the game and want to see it survive and grow. The addition of Bots has been very bad for SC, it is not helping as it was intended it is leaving people angry and frustrated when they leave these matches. Loosing additional players from SC only increase the reduction of our player base.

 

No one here is actually supporting BOTs they are supporting not keeping Vets out of T3. Again thats fine by me I support that entirely.

Bots are good, bots are needed in lower tiers for various reasons, and due to how easily accessible t3 is, it is easily a lower tier, not even “mid tier” as people use to call it. New players do not complain about bots, this is a biased lie, they don’t even know there are bots.

Playing t3 is a choice, don’t like bots? - play T4-t5 - 90% of people complaining about bots are easily t4+ in gear, wanna play t3? - sure play with bots.

Hearing complaints from pilots with thousands of battles about bots in t3, and other cases of some people not able to win 1v1 + bots due to “reasons”, is literally pathetic, it is like “yeah man you should go to college now”, -" naaah i prefer to stay in kindergarten, government should remove finger painting form curriculum here and start teaching calculus, since i want to stay here instead of moving on".

My point is simple its called PvP Player vs Player … If you gong to add Bots like this change the name to PvB Player vs Bots and be done with it.

  • aither pay back the amout of gold from every T3 ship , or make it that every ship is sitchable from his current tier , to the tier of your personal desire. for an example. Sai T3 right click the ship – option pops open “Sellect tier” and then your capable of switching it to T5 or T4 what ever u desire.

 

coz i havnt gatherd all thows ship to fly them vs bots . i havnt payd that much money to fight vs bots. + i think i can say that im one of the few people thats keeps on buying stuff and giving it away. concluding i spendind 10 times more then the avarage player. so please do somthing about this. make it that every ship in T3 is switchable in tiers !! so i atleast can use them and that u guys prove to my that i didnt wast my money coz i alone spended more then 3000 to 4000 € to sc alone in buying stuff , making multiple corporations. that forced other people to do the same and also spend more cash into sc. iv done so maney things and this is your punishment that u give to me?

I am pretty sure you already killed a xxxx lot of poor Aces with ur Sai, and their cries of outrage and agony have well repaid you.

The newbies have there own T3, free from vet interference with no bots.

Many of the players in this hidden T3 are no better or worse than bots.

They get to play and learn together at a level where all the modules and most of the tactics are available to them. That is they can do that without s1 'carrying ’ either side of a match, around 50 pages of the best scores topic are in T3. Players have been so used to stomping around this tier and feeling no shame at beating these players that it does not suprise me that the decision has been made to protect them.

I cant help but feel that much of the anger toward bots is actually more about the loss of getting to play against these new guys.

Now when a vet ques for T3 they play other ppl like them, with the spaces filled with bots, gives you a truer idea of games population balance at that level… vets are the minority.

In summation i imagine new players are fine with it as they do not see any bots. They might actually stay in game beyond T3 because they feel they have a say in matches now.

 

 

And vets do the game nor its players any favour by carrying every game or stomping every Ace team they are matched up against.

Not the only one who feels this way about it, had a really good laugh with some when the hidden T3 was found out about.

Newbs will never learn any teamwork if s1 solos all the work for them.

 

Some people simply refuse to play at higher tiers and will say anything to excuse it.

Only place you can get a team - Coordinate with others an make 4v4 squads then. (Also bs, played T4/5 in squads for over a year)

Iv bought prems at that level - Can still play and there are other gamemode available. (You need premiums? No.)

Bored now so the rest is… Excuse train choo choo!

 

@JCNB you hardly ever play T3, so this patch didnt affect you at all. Of course you defend it, you are happy that more people join the empty T4 games you used to play. You in 4 vs4 squads? you are a lone wolf, 2 man squads most often. More often you play alone. Have done T3-T4 in squads, more then 15 minutes waiting and often no match at all. You must be a very lucky guy.

I think its quite easy to say; play higher tiers but i happen to like the balance and ships in T3. T4 and T5 is IMO unbalanced and boring, overpowerd LRF, superbuild strafe ships,…

This has nothing to do with Aces in the game, so stop suggesting everyone that plays T3 is there because he wants to shoot Aces or he wants to end first. Its untrue and narrowminded. I do fine to very good in every tier, i dont need to play T3 to end first. I do it because i like the ships and the faster ships.

 

Learned team play in corp and from watching good players. Not from other Aces. No need to reserve T3 for learning teamplay, most still dont know a thing about in T5

T5 might be inbalanced, T4 is most definitely not. It is the most balanced tier in the whole game with fast and interesting ships. It is also quite reachable for newer Corp players, if u want to train or fly with your buddies.

We’ve slightly tweaked the MM today, now the number of bots on the EU and US servers should be decreased.

T5 might be inbalanced, T4 is most definitely not. It is the most balanced tier in the whole game with fast and interesting ships. It is also quite reachable for newer Corp players, if u want to train or fly with your buddies.

You know what an opinion is? Its not because you like T4 ships and the balance of T4 everyone should like it…

 

I dont think you should act like an expert… I m not very confident in your skills

We’ve slightly tweaked the MM today, now the number of bots on the EU and US servers should be decreased.

thank you

We’ve slightly tweaked the MM today, now the number of bots on the EU and US servers should be decreased.

 

In t3 they should be zero, not decreased :slight_smile: Like before! And why only on EU and US?

You know what an opinion is? Its not because you like T4 ships and the balance of T4 everyone should like it…

 

I dont think you should act like an expert… I m not very confident in your skills

xD…it is not an opinion it is truth…u would know it if u were Pro…ask an expert and he will tell u. T4 is most balanced.

 

If u are not confident in my skills, i am happy to take u apart when and if i reinstall…i am far from best but i managed to get Topgun…do u have that too? If not STFU.

I agree with Millanbell.

 

FWI Erik… Erador would wreck you. No doubt in my mind.

 

You act so arrogant for a player who does not play.

T4 has been the most balanced tier since forever, that is not an opinion, that is a fact. After couple of latest balance patches, T5 comes second best in that regards. T3 is not balanced, R9s are balanced, T3 as a tier is not, not even close.

T4 has been the most balanced tier since forever, that is not an opinion, that is a fact. After couple of latest balance patches, T5 comes second best in that regards. T3 is not balanced, R9s are balanced, T3 as a tier is not, not even close.

I have to agree with your statement.

xD…it is not an opinion it is truth…u would know it if u were Pro…ask an expert and he will tell u. T4 is most balanced.

 

If u are not confident in my skills, i am happy to take u apart when and if i reinstall…i am far from best but i managed to get Topgun…do u have that too? If not STFU.

I did get top gun, probably more often then you, even got to top 10 couple of times when I had the patience waiting in queue for 15 minutes to play T5. Certainly got better statistics then you. I remember playing against you, you were not very good, shot you on different occasions, you are just an average player, nothing special, not really in a position to decide that T4 is balanced. Might be best if you shut up. 

 

Back on subject now:

 

Played some games since the change, must say I dont really see any difference? still had 4-6 bots at either side.I guess it better then 8 at either side but it s still match breaking. Why not remove them completely? I dont see the added value.

 

 

Ps:@ Erikson stay away from forums of games you dont play. Dont be a troll.

 

Ps: @katovski, good another expert, just what we need. Do you play the game? or are you also a self acclaimed expert? Dont answer, I dont really care, must be a second forum account of that NASA guy trolling the forum, what s his name? Xkostyan, that was it, Oh you are also NASA, figures :stuck_out_tongue:

You can’t handle when some one disagrees with you can you? And since you was so kind to look into ErikErikson’s stats, I dunno, maybe look into mine?

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Am I qualified to judge balance in this game?

Well i played 6000 battles, mostly T5, and actually very little T4, still i know basics. I am agahst that you reached topgun without realizing such basic facts.

 

I wont reinstall just to fight you, but I can offer you a duel in Hearthstone, if u want satisfaction.

No bots in T3, full stop. They don’t help anyone, especially new players. All this does is dumb down the game and we get an even worse standard of player in T4 and T5. What we need to do is slow the tier rushers down a bit, so that they actually learn the game before ruining higher tier game play. T3 used to be really good in making you try to get better, that is what I had to do and I’m glad I did. When I first started T3 it was tough, very tough, but I came through as a better pilot. Then again I come from the days that games were a challenge, not like 90% of today’s games that are just a pretty cakewalk. This is meant to be a competitive game, and if the devs want to even remotely try to get it into e-sports then they need to stop dumbing PvP down asap.

 

By all means balance the game by matching pilots of similar skill level, but do not add bots! Combat Recon is the most ridiculous mode to have bots in, as teams can simply stay back and the one that kill the most bots wins. Then the scrubs get to T4 and have 0 idea what to do when they are the captain. And then the cycle starts again, but in T4. Players need to man up and actually try and get better themselves, like anything in life.

 

@ErikErikson: You don’t play the game anymore, so how on earth can you know how these changes affect the game? Please stop speculating and get back to whatever game you are playing now, or reinstall and get back in the action here again :wink:

 

T4 has been the most balanced tier since forever, that is not an opinion, that is a fact. After couple of latest balance patches, T5 comes second best in that regards. T3 is not balanced, R9s are balanced, T3 as a tier is not, not even close.

 

Not entirely true. Ships are balanced in T4, sure, but thanks to our beloved tier rushes now we have very unbalanced teams in Capture the Beacon matches, which seem to be 50% of T4 matches (can’t comment on T5 as I have only just started to get into it, but from what I have experienced it is the same).

You can’t handle when some one disagrees with you can you? And since you was so kind to look into ErikErikson’s stats, I dunno, maybe look into mine?

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Am I qualified to judge balance in this game?

You play at usa peak times, only bad players at those times, everyone knows that, your stats are not worth very much. Even so i dont care people disagree with me as long if they have some good arguments and as long if it isnt the same player over and over again. What does bother me that you react at every post of every player and say the exact oposite. No matter what topic, as soon as its negative, there you are jumping from under your bridge to comment. If the devs dont pay you for writing on their behalf they should start doing so :wink:

Anyway, let’s stay on topic or you ll get a note from Error like me:p

 

 

Well i played 6000 battles, mostly T5, and actually very little T4, still i know basics. I am agahst that you reached topgun without realizing such basic facts.

 

I wont reinstall just to fight you, but I can offer you a duel in Hearthstone, if u want satisfaction.

Not need, its obvious you are no match. You dont play T3, you dont even play the game. Dont comment on bots in T3 in a game that you dont play. Its also off topic, lets talk about the bots again.

 

 

 

Had 2 great days in T3 without any bots, good full matches with good players. yesterdayevening, last 3 matches bots reappear from out of nowhere. What is up with that? Werent there any bots because it was bugged or did you just last night change your mind again?

 

It went great without the bots. More balanced. Last three games with bots we steamrolled over the enemy, my last 5 kills in team battle, all bots, made it an easy win in stead of a exciting close match. Wasnt even 1 bot. It were 6! bots at either side. already had a 5 vs 5 going so there wasnt any need for the bots.