a) I don’t think it is a good idea to use Google translate for anything longer than a single word, you have no clue the hell you just wrote there, but i do, you might wanna delete it
b) The other thing is that none of us here are historian PHDs/masters, did any proper research on any history subjects, and talking only basing on w/e we were taught in school/college /general idea. There is much-much more to anything, and claiming things from a thin air is not showing anyone in a good light.
I know the thing about google translator, lol, but what can I do to communicate with that guy, who doesn’t know english?
Maybe Stalin was a bad man and repression were, and other atrocities.
But in the second world war our grandfathers and grandmothers fought and died for their country against the fascists. And now you put an equal sign between us. It’s an insult.
If you do not like the hammer and sickle, then please find another reason to remove it from the game. For example, children’s nightmares when parents frighten you by Stalin or Russian bears, made you dig bomb shelters and tremble at the mere mention of the USSR.
Sorry for the intervention. Good luck.
*translated by Google translator
grandfathers and grandmothers fought and died for their country agains the fascist. And grandfathers and grandmothers died because of hunger, millions of them.
if a bad guy kill another bad guy that doesnt make him the good guy, wow.
grandfathers and grandmothers fought and died for their country agains the fascist. And grandfathers and grandmothers died because of hunger, millions of them.
if a bad guy kill another bad guy that doesnt make him the good guy, wow.
You guys really should stop nit picking in your hate, you wanna hate? hate on everyone, on every country, that would be fair. good example Spain, do you know what this country did on American continent since Columb came there?? Same with other “civil” countries participating in “developing” America, Hitler and Stalin can go smoke a pipe in a kindergarten comparing to those “steps of the evolution” and no one of you hates on them, why? Get real, people.
You guys really should stop nit picking in your hate, you wanna hate? hate on everyone, on every country, that would be fair. good example Spain, do you know what this country did on American continent since Columb came there?? Same with other “civil” countries participating in “developing” America, Hitler and Stalin can go smoke a pipe in a kindergarten comparing to those “steps of the evolution” and no one of you hates on them, why? Get real, people.
You kiddin’, right? I know perfectly why the stupid spanish ppl did there in America. For example burning native shamans to teach them the “religious way”.
Do you think I would talk about that kind of topics without knowing what I’m saying? wow
And pls, as I said, don’t come with the “you hate” thing, I don’t hate anyone, I’m not racist, I don’t hate russians like I don’t hate germans or spanish ppl, do you think this is a xxxx all vs Russia thread? well xxxx off and delete it because you are taking things wrong. We were talking about offensive symbols untill this guy came with that propaganda off “I was born in the mother Russia and I was told to hate the germans”
And please, evade coming here with that kind of things like “do you know what your country did?” ofc I do and I’m not saying that my country are better that your country, I’m not even saying that someone is “better” than some other one.
If you rly think ppl just hate Hitler or Stalin because they’r the most known you’re very wrong. We spanish ppl are constantly reminded of the atrocius things our ancesters did on the past
I don’t want a flame ward or anything xKostyan, if you felt offended by anything I said my apologizes, I’m giving an opinion, and I’m not hating nor trying to offend any person or any country. We’re in the 21th century
You kiddin’, right? I know perfectly why the stupid spanish ppl did there in America. For example burning native shamans to teach them the “religious way”.
Do you think I would talk about that kind of topics without knowing what I’m saying? wow
And pls, as I said, don’t come with the “you hate” thing, I don’t hate anyone, I’m not racist, I don’t hate russians like I don’t hate germans or spanish ppl, do you think this is a xxxx all vs Russia thread? well xxxx off and delete it because you are taking things wrong. We were talking about offensive symbols untill this guy came with that propaganda off “I was born in the mother Russia and I was told to hate the germans”
And please, evade coming here with that kind of things like “do you know what your country did?” ofc I do and I’m not saying that my country are better that your country, I’m not even saying that someone is “better” than some other one.
If you rly think ppl just hate Hitler or Stalin because they’r the most known you’re very wrong. We spanish ppl are constantly reminded of the atrocius things our ancesters did on the past
I don’t want a flame ward or anything xKostyan, if you felt offended by anything I said my apologizes, I’m giving an opinion, and I’m not hating nor trying to offend any person or any country. We’re in the 21th century
My posts were mostly aimed at a Dentist, he is a Polish person and Polan is not a best example of a friendship relationship with USSR, but thing is that he has no clue about actual history, all he knows is mouth to mouth stories within his nation or the History written by his country. There is much more to the conflict of USSR-Poland, that is hidden from publicity and its way off from black and white, i have as much right to hate on Poland as they do to hate on USSR. Stalin was a brutal man and a lot of people died while he was at the power, but how many of you even know why they died, who they were, and what these people did to the country even before Stalin came to power? None of you know, because the actual history is not taught in schools. Yes many innocent people died, and it is a sad fact but the whole thing is way off from every one is believing in it to be. I did my share of history research and not just by googling thing, i was privileged to have an ability to learn facts that are not in text books, from different countries standpoints. The whole thing is so screwed up, it is unbelievable and all these arguments between people that have no actual idea what really happenned in the world just look very very wrong, everyone is brainwashed, History is written by winners and it has nothing to do with the history.
My posts were mostly aimed at a Dentist, he is a Polish person and Polan is not a best example of a friendship relationship with USSR, but thing is that he has no clue about actual history, all he knows is mouth to mouth stories within his nation or the History written by his country. There is much more to the conflict of USSR-Poland, that is hidden from publicity and its way off from black and white, i have as much right to hate on Poland as they do to hate on USSR. Stalin was a brutal man and a lot of people died while he was at the power, but how many of you even know why they died, who they were, and what these people did to the country even before Stalin came to power? None of you know, because the actual history is not taught in schools. Yes many innocent people died, and it is a sad fact but the whole thing is way off from every one is believing in it to be. I did my share of history research and not just by googling thing, i was privileged to have an ability to learn facts that are not in text books, from different countries standpoints. The whole thing is so screwed up, it is unbelievable and all these arguments between people that have no actual idea what really happenned in the world just look very very wrong, everyone is brainwashed, History is written by winners and it has nothing to do with the history.
If u are trying to say that Polish started the conflict between Poland and USSR, you are very wrong, but I won’t be trying to discuss with a troll, okay?
Hitler killed 8 millions of innocent people, tovarishch Stalin killed 40 millions. I am not afraid of USSR. You are just a poor victim of propaganda, so don’t try to say that one mass murderer was better than another, OK?!
My grand grand father got the highest Polish military achievment, the virtuti militari twice for fighting bolsheviks.
People, who know about the Soviet Union only from books or TV, made in their countries, call me “poor victim of propaganda.” Only your leaders and propagandist speak the truth, right? You are funny.
I do not deny Stalin’s actions. About his personality I agree. I’m against a portrait of Stalin in the game (or any other historical figure). But I can not understand out what’s wrong with the hammer and sickle? They were long before Stalin’s and for many years thereafter. This symbol of the country, the alliance of workers and peasants, and not a symbol of Stalin and his repression. Read at least wiki.
In the game there is no image of Stalin, there is no problem, and the symbol … are you poor victim of Propaganda, if you have such associations with a cross and a hammer. This is not the same as Hitler and swastika
If u are trying to say that Polish started the conflict between Poland and USSR, you are very wrong, but I won’t be trying to discuss with a troll, okay?
Do you even know that Poland was one of the deciding factors why Lenin and Trockiy even came to power and were able to hold they influence during the revolution times? Are you aware of literally tons of gold appropriated by Poland from Russia before it even became a USSR?