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@ArcTic
@ second part of your post, you believe that the world was created by chance. how is that reason? Saying that the earth was created by accident is like saying that my pc was created by accident and so was the internet. that boat doesn’t float! There has always been something, how am I unreasonable that i think it’s a great designer while you say it was energy that blew up a bunch of times and created gloop that formed into a cell which evolved over gazillions of years into a monkey and then into humans? Can you trace your family tree back to a monkey?
Evolution is a proved theory. Proved wrong.
There is no amount of facepalm adequate for this…
Just because you believe in some higher being, doesn’t mean the rest of us have to. I’m going to straighten out a few things:
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A BELIEF is something you personally hold to be true. Someone can believe something, while another believes the opposite. Only JUSTIFIED TRUE BELIEFS are actually true, as they have been proven and knowledge is made up of Justified True Beliefs (this is Philosophy 101).
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A THEORY is something that has been confirmed by a majority of the scientists working on it. Therefore, the THEORY of evolution is most likely true. It is not a Justified True Belief, but it is more factual than most ordinary beliefs. It is very easy to trace back human ancestry to apes, as we share 99% of our DNA with Chimpanzees. That is no coincidence.
Anyone can have a belief, and that is their right. That does not mean that it is necessarily true, or that you can go around shoving it on people expecting something to happen or for them to “miraculously” change their beliefs.
I strongly believe that it is everyone’s right to have the freedom to practice whatever religion they choose, but I also strongly believe that no one has the right to force their religion on others.
I won’t even begin to delve into how the Earth was created, as that would take hours for me to write.
The problem I find with religion (Christianity in particular) isn’t the fact that you believe in a God, it is that the bible is wrong about when the Earth was created. The Earth is 4.5 billion years old (this has been proven by countless scientists across the globe), not 5 or 6 thousand years old as the bible states.
Anyways, enough of this rant. All that you need to take away from this is that no one’s beliefs are superior to another’s.
@ second part of your post, you believe that the world was created by chance. how is that reason? Saying that the earth was created by accident is like saying that my pc was created by accident and so was the internet. that boat doesn’t float! There has always been something, how am I unreasonable that i think it’s a great designer while you say it was energy that blew up a bunch of times and created gloop that formed into a cell which evolved over gazillions of years into a monkey and then into humans? Can you trace your family tree back to a monkey?
Evolution is a proved theory. Proved wrong.
DirkDecent provided a ton of information that I was thinking.
Also, you’re not a evolutionary biologist so evolution may not make sense to you, however, that only means you are not knowledgeable in that field. I assume you’re not a particle physicist either, which is why you don’t understand how our planet came together through explosions, chemical reactions, and all other possible scientific reactions you can think of.
Just don’t be saying things you have no knowledge of, like saying evolution doesn’t exist, when clearly DNA is a part of our body, etc. I am not a biologist, but I know enough to know that we evolved over time through chemical reactions or something. Cells have been studied tons and tons, and they evolve, and adapt to their environment.
Fun fact about “Creationist”: apart US, no one cares. Not even here in Vatican cities colonies (Italy).
Btw i hate when someone says: don’t squad up otherwise you will face ESB/WPK… ther’s a right word to describe this attitude. But i won’t say it on public forum.
I share 55% of my DNA with a banana.
When the Bible refers to days it often symbolizes a period of time. Days could mean literal days, weeks, months, years, etc. It’s up to the person to look at the concept clues and do some research. With regards to ancient prophecies a person has to do some serious number crunching. If a person takes “days” literally when it obviously isn’t literally then the person is stupid.
Now regarding the scientific accuracy of the Bible. The Bible has often stated things before secular history. Isaiah 40:22 speaks of the Earth being round in shape. The book of Isaiah was written in the 8th century BC. The first secular concept was Greek and occured in the 6th century BC. The first secular proof of this was in the 3rd century when Eratosthenes measured shadows from different locations.
Another example would be found in Ecclesiastes 1:7 where it talks about the water cycle or Job 26:7 where the Bible talks about the Earth hanging in empty space suspended on nothing. The health regulations in the Mosaic Law also were ahead of Medical Science at the time speaking of quarantine and sanitation.
Look guys that’s Wiggle math:
Cucumber contain 95% water.
I can walk on Cucumbers.
Jesus could walk on water.
Jesus was hooman, same as me.
Therefore I’m Jesus in 95%.
Still workin on changing water to wine.
a. there is belief in terms of “i believe something to be true, even tho i cannot prove it, but it can be proven”
b. there is a theory, which is mainly the same as a belief, but circumscribes it as something to be proven for knowledge.
c. there is faith, which means, you believe in something which cannot be proven, and you know, it cannot be proven. this is not the same as a. (I believe in you means in christian terms: “I trust in you”, not “I assume you are real”; same as you believe in a person, not because you believe he exists, but you believe in his possibilities)
d. there is a scientific theory, which means, it has not yet been proven wrong but possibly also cannot be proven right. this includes evolution. this is not the same as b.
i facepalm the same about some public scientist-figures’ amateur theories of gods unexistence, as creationists’ amateur science propaganda.
nobody should mistake science as their religion, that’s not science, and it ain’t a proper religion either.
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Still workin on changing water to wine.
WORK HARDER.
WORK HARDER.
When the Bible refers to days it often symbolizes a period of time. Days could mean literal days, weeks, months, years, etc. It’s up to the person to look at the concept clues and do some research. With regards to ancient prophecies a person has to do some serious number crunching. If a person takes “days” literally when it obviously isn’t literally then the person is stupid.
Now regarding the scientific accuracy of the Bible. The Bible has often stated things before secular history. Isaiah 40:22 speaks of the Earth being round in shape. The book of Isaiah was written in the 8th century BC. The first secular concept was Greek and occured in the 6th century BC. The first secular proof of this was in the 3rd century when Eratosthenes measured shadows from different locations.
Another example would be found in Ecclesiastes 1:7 where it talks about the water cycle or Job 26:7 where the Bible talks about the Earth hanging in empty space suspended on nothing. The health regulations in the Mosaic Law also were ahead of Medical Science at the time speaking of quarantine and sanitation.
The Bible is just a book. Someone or several people wrote it. The fact that millions of people read it and believe what it suggests, does not remove the fact that it is a book like any other. Why should I believe the Bible any more than the Quran, the Torah, or the Tripitaka?
Also have you ever tried reading the Bible in Latin? Don’t forget that until John Wycliffe, and then later Martin Luther, noone except the priests and the rich, who had learned latin, could even read it! People relied on their local priest to “interpret” the Bible for them! And I think many of them interpreted it rather loosely…
@millan
Just some facts straight, not to contradict u, and purely also cosmetic history:
the torah is part of the bible btw.
and the bible is 66 books from different times and people. 
also, the bible wasnt written in latin, it was written in hebrew (ot) and greek (nt). this your-eyes-only thing was also to keep people away from interpreting their uneducated knowledge out of the equasion, for some good reasons, especially because of the torah part, and because unlike judaism, christians did not have the same level of churchly education, since it was not a cultural religion, and sunday schools came way later
i dont think the interpretation thing was ever the real problem, it was rather the worldly lust of people, and the power it gave them over centuries; the safeguard became its own undoing; martin luther actually didnt reinterprete so much, he rather discovered, that actually the book was never read in whole and the church actually twisted things on purpose, for their own institutional and political gain.
He did trigger a reform in the roman church, but also there was a split, which sometimes makes it feel as if one party didnt change, but they both did.
Did I say political and institutional? Well, lets not forget fiscal.
but this human problem isn’t really restricted to religion historically; in a philosophical sense, it’s even part of the reason religion exists. Homo Lupus Homini. (The human is humans’ wolf.)
anyway, i think, we should not argue about personal beliefs here. and personally, i do think there is a huge difference between religions, and you cant just put every book in the same shelf, but that’s another story.
@Religion topic here
Donny is awesome in this pic. Donny got it all figured out. Y’all see.
you cant just put every book in the same shelf, but that’s another story.
Loved this XD Nice answer.
Yeah a lot revolves around personal opinion, so I will stop answering here
So anyways, here is a picture of a surprised OWL for you g4borg:
Also I came across this while on youtube:
The Bible is just a book. Someone or several people wrote it. The fact that millions of people read it and believe what it suggests, does not remove the fact that it is a book like any other. Why should I believe the Bible any more than the Quran, the Torah, or the Tripitaka?
Also have you ever tried reading the Bible in Latin? Don’t forget that until John Wycliffe, and then later Martin Luther, noone except the priests and the rich, who had learned latin, could even read it! People relied on their local priest to “interpret” the Bible for them! And I think many of them interpreted it rather loosely…
Have you ever read the bible in your native language?
The original “Bible” was written in Hebrew mostly. Do keep in mind it is a collection of books, that is why I put it in quotes and also reference mostly. I think some of it was written in Arabic.
Religion & science have something greatly in common. They both require faith.
So read all of the science books in the world. Guess what.
Unless you try and test every test they run. Unless you dig up every bone and study it.
You are believing what they present you on
faith…
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