I agree with Enny, and we have a rule like that in the WolfPack too (every pilot that joins the corp receives the explanaton and warnings - such actions would not go unpunished), but it is up to DNO to settle with this.
Except i do visit ru forums and for my love for starting local shitstorms i did went to dno thread, luckily we had their higherups online but no moderators so we had couple of pages of fun untill it all got cleansed with fire. Here is a short recap that goes from multiple DNO members that are not in the screenshot(except Valkir, he didnt say anything on topic), one of them was kaneto(known for his “awesome” sprtsmanship)
“we dont give a smoked baloney what others think of our behavior, we are going to do what we want, stuff like this is absolutely normal and accepted within broader layer of DNO pilots”
Except i do visit ru forums and for my love for starting local shitstorms i did went to dno thread, luckily we had their higherups online but no moderators so we had couple of pages of fun untill it all got cleansed with fire. Here is a short recap that goes from multiple DNO members that are not in the screenshot(except Valkir, he didnt say anything on topic), one of them was kaneto(known for his “awesome” sprtsmanship)
“we dont give a smoked baloney what others think of our behavior, we are going to do what we want, stuff like this is absolutely normal and accepted within broader layer of DNO pilots”
:facepalm:
As Funky said, follow the standard reporting procedures, it is indeed not normal and it’s against game rules.
On topic.
Personally, in my own expert opinion, I rather face impossible odds then disconnect for a number of reasons.
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It forces me to think outside the box
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Makes me be a better pilot to face pilots above my skill level.
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Allows me to think of a counter strategy in order to eventually beat them.
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it gets me rewards and synergy for completing the game session as intended.
The only reasons I can think of for disconnecting is as follows.
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To skip a game because it would take too long to justify being of any value… An’t nobody got time for that!
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Know your enemies would farm you
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you are solo or alone versing a well organized squad.
I propose a system where you can raise a white flag or vote of some kind. This way instead of disconnecting, players “vote” to “surrender” and if all the players surrender, the game ends, and the appropriate synergy, credits, Influence, etc. are handed out.
The only reasons I can think of for disconnecting is as follows.
To skip a game because it would take too long to justify being of any value… An’t nobody got time for that!
Know your enemies would farm you
you are solo or alone versing a well organized squad.
Didn’t you read Mustacho’s post about retreat? your three points are just excuses, if you ask me.
I propose a system where you can raise a white flag or vote of some kind. This way instead of disconnecting, players “vote” to “surrender” and if all the players surrender, the game ends, and the appropriate synergy, credits, Influence, etc. are handed out.
Surrender? What is this? Leage of Legends?
Are we all french now or what? (jk)
JP, into shame corner, now. There no valid excuse to leave a game except when real life thing calls, period. Even if its a 1v12 esb, you disconnect i cut your balls
There is no excuse for disconnecting without even trying especially Sector Conquest.
Are we all french now or what? (jk)
Tssssss.
I think, there are two separate topics mixing anyway, in the main topic.
One is, is it honorable to leave? Is honor that important? After all, it is a game, if your team decides to leave, you will most likely follow. Forfeit.
For some of us, honor is important, even more, many of us believe, that by not facing impossible odds, and only play the games you can win, you cannot learn, try to improve your team. But even if we believe that, since I am amongst them, it is needless to say, that not every slaughter you endure does teach you and your team something. So sometimes honor tastes bitter and ends up in stubborn idiocy.
Others don’t see it this way, not even a question of honor, they see it as time wasted, and maybe even as kind of a protest maybe, dunno. And in a way, I am inclined to say, it does have truth in it. But I also do not see valid excuses, except real life is calling or stumbling over the network cable.
The second is less a question of public opinion or morale, it is about sportsmanship and the rules of the game. And it is against the rules and bad sportsmanship. This is decided by reports, which in my eyes kinda ends that part of the topic for good.
Leaving the question of honor open, since I guess, there is no way we can see eye to eye with everybody in every aspect, without insulting each other non stop…
Suiciding all ships would cost credits. I guess that’s why forfeiting by leaving seems a better option (Cpt. Obvious to the rescue). And humans always take the better and easier option. Can’t blame 'em for that.
NO RETREAT
NO SURRENDER
Simple rules for simple people.
Also, a bit off- a bit ontopic: in a recon, everyone dead from the team but me, enemy is full, 7k away, am i allowed to suicide? I already got hit so i won’t save SR by it, i just spare some time from the match. Or is that against the rules?
NO RETREAT
NO SURRENDER
Simple rules for simple people.
Also, a bit off- a bit ontopic: in a recon, everyone dead from the team but me, enemy is full, 7k away, am i allowed to suicide? I already got hit so i won’t save SR by it, i just spare some time from the match. Or is that against the rules?
Personally, i would still try to lure 1-2 enemies and take them down even if they can respawn, just for the sake of it. But, in this particular case, i don’t see wrong with self destruct.
Sure, it would have been tough, but maybe they would learn to work with the pugs a bit if they stayed and attempted to communicate.
Working with PUGs is key to success in this game. If you can’t do it, you can’t master PvP. You either rely on squads as a crutch or you become better and more strategic. It’s the third skillset in this game, beyond keyboard ship control and mouse aiming.
Except i do visit ru forums and for my love for starting local shitstorms i did went to dno thread, luckily we had their higherups online but no moderators so we had couple of pages of fun untill it all got cleansed with fire. Here is a short recap that goes from multiple DNO members that are not in the screenshot(except Valkir, he didnt say anything on topic), one of them was kaneto(known for his “awesome” sprtsmanship)
“we dont give a smoked baloney what others think of our behavior, we are going to do what we want, stuff like this is absolutely normal and accepted within broader layer of DNO pilots”
Where they told their actions are bannable offenses?
Tssssss.
When was the last time France genuinely won a war? Having a highly “respectable” military yet not being feared says something.
The last time I disconnected from battle without real life circumstances was a capture the beacons where I lost all four ships. I said xxxx it, I derped enough, I’m going to reddit for the night. I’ve also had capture the beacon matches where my team was gone and I was on my first ship. Figure out a successful strategy, don’t abandon mastery.
Working with PUGs is key to success in this game. If you can’t do it, you can’t master PvP. You either rely on squads as a crutch or you become better and more strategic. It’s the third skillset in this game, beyond keyboard ship control and mouse aiming.
Where they told their actions are bannable offenses?
When was the last time France genuinely won a war? Having a highly “respectable” military yet not being feared says something.
The last time I disconnected from battle without real life circumstances was a capture the beacons where I lost all four ships. I said xxxx it, I derped enough, I’m going to reddit for the night. I’ve also had capture the beacon matches where my team was gone and I was on my first ship. Figure out a successful strategy, don’t abandon mastery.
Your matches were PvP’s the one posted and what we are talking about here mainly is Sector Conquest. Quitting in PvP instead of SecCon doesn’t make it more excusable but Sector Conquest is supposed to be the end game and between Corporations.
Leaving a battle where you already lost all your ships doesn’t make any difference to your team.
Personally, i would still try to lure 1-2 enemies and take them down even if they can respawn, just for the sake of it. But, in this particular case, i don’t see wrong with self destruct.
try to kamikaze someone 
Your matches were PvP’s the one posted and what we are talking about here mainly is Sector Conquest. Quitting in PvP instead of SecCon doesn’t make it more excusable but Sector Conquest is supposed to be the end game and between Corporations.
Leaving a battle where you already lost all your ships doesn’t make any difference to your team.
Sector Conquest is PvP limited to corp members with R11+ ships and expecting capture the beacons. It’s still PvP unless you’re in a wing. Then it’s still PvP but with “friends” against “friends” in possibly imbalanced teams.
As for quitting after losing four ships, I was stating my resistance to outright surrender.
Hey those are reasons
Didn’t you read Mustacho’s post about retreat? your three points are just excuses, if you ask me.
Surrender? What is this? Leage of Legends?
Are we all french now or what? (jk)
French? I was talking about being solo. I would never back down while in a squad.
JP, into shame corner, now. There no valid excuse to leave a game except when real life thing calls, period. Even if its a 1v12 esb, you disconnect i cut your balls
I see. So you feel strongly about this. I understand, see above replied comment.
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Hey those are reasons
French? I was talking about being solo. I would never back down while in a squad.
I see. So you feel strongly about this. I understand, see above replied comment.
Playing solo is no excuse! And its against the game rules, and as a GM you CANT excuse disconnecting!
Very bad JP no Sweet Rolls for you for 1 month.
Playing solo is no excuse! And its against the game rules, and as a GM you CANT excuse disconnecting!
Very bad JP no Sweet Rolls for you for 1 month.
Dibs on the excess he cant eat!