Balance in PvP still bad

[GatoGrande 106]

Title say it all.

 

Four Team Battles - four games with +25 difference and always same players on each side.

[GatoGrande 106]

Hmmm someone changed my original title 

[TheDarkRedFox 1,587]

PvP is always shit. Always will be.

Especially given the recent "balance" change that pits players against the same players regardless of how they play. My stats are generally not that great yet I always fight against people that I know are gonna own me.

[Flash0914 142]

On 29.3.2018 at 7:52 PM, TheDarkRedFox said:

PvP is always xxxx. Always will be.

Especially given the recent "balance" change that pits players against the same players regardless of how they play. My stats are generally not that great yet I always fight against people that I know are gonna own me.

That's not true. Back in dogs of war pvp was very well balanced and enjoyable. Age of destroyers also was not too bad (if you ignore the time when there were 12 destroyers in a battle because reasons).

 

[ORCA1911 848]

I see imbalance as a form of challenge and i build new ideas around it (i eventually get sick of it since i invest so much time in my builds just to be owned by a imba-simpleton) but if we would ignore that, pvp is an ever-changing mode where you have to adapt fast or, well, die fast.

[GatoGrande 106]

2 hours ago, ORCA1911 said:

I see imbalance as a form of challenge and i build new ideas around it (i eventually get sick of it since i invest so much time in my builds just to be owned by a imba-simpleton) but if we would ignore that, pvp is an ever-changing mode where you have to adapt fast or, well, die fast.

Each PvP should be challenge but well balanced one.

+25 or more difference in 9/10 games in team battle is not exactly challenge that gives you joy to take it.

[ORCA1911 848]

Frontal blaster is the main issue atm whilst deconstructor and that superstrafing mobile guard post canceling energy fight for the 2nd and 3rd position. Besides that i could say nothing catches my eye in an imbalanced way much.

[GatoGrande 106]

6 hours ago, ORCA1911 said:

Frontal blaster is the main issue atm whilst deconstructor and that superstrafing mobile guard post canceling energy fight for the 2nd and 3rd position. Besides that i could say nothing catches my eye in an imbalanced way much.

 

Perhaps this:

 

Focusing laser + magnetic disruptor active module?

Quantum defence?

Tai'kin with 80% of modules that are OP and Doomsday missiles spam?

Should I say more?

 

 

[Johnnynator1 149]

3 hours ago, GatoGrande said:

 

Perhaps this:

 

Focusing laser + magnetic disruptor active module?

Quantum defence?

Tai'kin with 80% of modules that are OP and Doomsday missiles spam?

Should I say more?

Not only focusing laser + magnetic disruptor but also Tilith + m.d. and Thi'Es + m.d.. But w/e the game is probably in the most unbalanced state atm (except maybe Thar'Ga release).

[GatoGrande 106]

Balance in MM

 

one side; http://prntscr.com/iz91px

 

other side;http://prntscr.com/iz91xs

 

http://prntscr.com/iz924p

 

If you look at ships one side have full R15 and other side have not even close.

And if you look closer side with all R15 ships have almost all Russian players.

 

Accidentally? 

[GatoGrande 106]

I just got this screenshot,  it just happened 3 min ago;

 

https://prnt.sc/izd4nc

 

37;0

 

Great MM. Well balanced

 

 

[ORCA1911 848]

 

Spoiler

Imagine this balance, nuts.

[avarshina 152]

Man I would guess , that a very good MM system would need data from life performances so that it could learn.

Do not expect results in mo time. Godd thing needs time!

 

Even the often cited Elo rating system actually needs chess players challenging better as well as weaker players to level itself out (from player perspective in terms of accuracy of rank assigned in the short as well as in the long run)

[GatoGrande 106]

2 hours ago, ORCA1911 said:

 

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Imagine this balance, nuts.

 

When do you play?

I don't see any player that I know in that screenshot.

[ORCA1911 848]

gmt+1, do i have to know every frag?

[avarshina 152]

It is probably North American Time Zone (NA) roughly +6-+8 GMT/UTC probably sometimes towards late night in EU

Some names I recognize

[GatoGrande 106]

9 hours ago, ORCA1911 said:

gmt+1, do i have to know every frag?

 

20 players and I recognize just you and perhaps one more it is weird since I know most of the really good players.

 

[GatoGrande 106]

So how can I win with this?? 

 

http://prntscr.com/izxcf3

http://prntscr.com/izxc21

http://prntscr.com/izxcxu

 

R1 in against R16???

 

And once again on my side.

 

Whoever invented one tier is MO RO N

 

 

[GatoGrande 106]

Since I will get smart comment on this just for info red side have more than 100K PvP battles in total

 

Nice balance 

 

 

7 hours ago, GatoGrande said:

So how can I win with this?? 

 

http://prntscr.com/izxcf3

http://prntscr.com/izxc21

http://prntscr.com/izxcxu

 

R1 in against R16???

 

And once again on my side.

 

Whoever invented one tier is MO RO N

 

[GatoGrande 106]

How is this suppose to be fun?

 

Great balance all the way.

 

 

http://prntscr.com/j1ul55

http://prntscr.com/j1ukrm

 

again opposite site has more than 100K PvP games.

 

And now Niri will be smart again.

It is impossible to level ships when you get games like this in PvP.

 

Also, all low-rank ships are on blue side.

 

MM  S U C K big time. 

 

[GatoGrande 106]

 

1 minute ago, GatoGrande said:

How is this suppose to be fun?

 

Great balance all the way.

 

 

http://prntscr.com/j1ul55

http://prntscr.com/j1ukrm

 

again opposite site has more than 100K PvP games.

 

And now Niri will be smart again.

It is impossible to level ships when you get games like this in PvP.

 

Also, all low-rank ships are on blue side.

 

MM  S U C K big time. 

 

 

blue side; http://prntscr.com/j1uoen

 

red side; http://prntscr.com/j1uorf

[Koromac 1,263]

Another example of rubbish, biased Matchmaker.

My team had one guy with R10 and R5 or R6 ship, and another guy that only had Palom - R3.

This was happening on Iridium Strand map, the big one where you had to capture changing beacons, one at a time.

 

@RIGGEDTOLOSE

 

Screenshot:

[g4borg 1,866]

it's not the ranks of ships which make you lose

makes no sense to show the screenshot of your teams unexperienced player vs. the other teams best 22k battles player.

 

it's the pilots behind it. not the ship ranks.

 

problem of the mm is the pilot distribution

but on that regard i agree, sometimes its just really strange.

 

(also i am not saying putting unexperienced r3 players is a good idea there, but it would not have hurt to distribute them amongst the teams)

 

[Rob40468 200]

Guy on Palom got 3 kills and 1 cap. I doubt he is a newbie. Some people take low rank ship to "exploit" the normalization bonus - yesterday I met guy that was making havoc in my team with bubble Lynx MkII - my 1.1k dmg Phaser was dealing 200 dmg to his hull.

[_terrorblade 255]

1 hour ago, Rob40468 said:

Guy on Palom got 3 kills and 1 cap. I doubt he is a newbie. Some people take low rank ship to "exploit" the normalization bonus - yesterday I met guy that was making havoc in my team with bubble Lynx MkII - my 1.1k dmg Phaser was dealing 200 dmg to his hull.

Calling it an "exploit" is ridiculous. t1/t2 ships are still inferior because low rank equipment has worse stats (projectile speed and range being an important one) and they have access to far fewer modules depending on rank.

If you feel like the bonus is OP you can try t1, like many pilots did earlier (and then switched back to t4-t5)