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"Endless Mode" would be a solo/team PvE mode where the player or players face ever hardening waves of AI controlled ships. Starting with Fire Support enemies, moving to Blackwood enemies,  then Pirate Raid enemies, then AI bots of increasing difficulty, then AI aliens, then OS enemies of increasing difficulty, then Adrian's Thread enemies, and so on. The waves would never stop and would be harder every wave until players are essentially fighting bosses the whole time. Each completed wave would grant +10% of the rewards and +1 loot spot, like Adrian's Thread. Every 5 waves, there would be a dual-wave wave where lots of very weak enemies appear just before a powerful boss ship appears. Completing this wave grants +25% of rewards and +2 loot spots.

 

Hull/speed/damage buffs would randomly spawn around the map to keep players moving. Never spawn within 5,000m of a player.

 

This would be a mode primarily for massive credit gain and for loot spot grinding (materials and monos etc).

 

It would unlock at rank 6, but then be available for use with ships of any rank. No match-makig required, just throw players in to new matches. Last man standing gets +5% to overall rewards.

 

 

Thiughts? This would be amazing "practice" mode and "endurance" mode.

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Its the " no win scenario " for star trek online ,,,.. I like it  but the Dev's would NEVER put the reward in it  that would make it worth while .... and if you think players hate Ariadne's thread  I cant imagine  what they would think of a no win scenario

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I do like the idea, I was thinking of something similar, like a big warfare area where everyone can join in or make private wing, and there will be everything literally, even a dreadnought and a Defiler :)

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+1

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Up for review.

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I could see something in this mode that was discussed/suggested before but I can't remember or find where. The suggestion I am talking about was about preset ships, that would be given to players by the system. This mode could implement something like that. Lets say, a player enters with his ships but had an option to choose from the preset ships. Or maybe after each boss a new ship would be given or selected.

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I remember it too, idk where it is tho.

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Nah I'd like to use my own builds and ships thanks

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the last year I played star Trek online  I lived in Kerrat ... (a free for all pvp zone)  I wanted to do that here but its not possible ... OS is the closest thing to it  but OS is dead  .... then there's custom battles  but  the repair cost would be  in the 10's of millions for an hour of play ....... then there's PVP ......(emote of a face vomiting) PVP just plain sucks ballls in this game ... I personally would like to take my Tyrant into the no win but after 10-20 dupes  I can imagine the repair cost would be 2-3 million  would I get 5 million and 20 of each material to remake dupes at the end ? you know other games remove repair costs in matches like that

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3 minutes ago, Original_Taz said:

the last year I played star Trek online  I lived in Kerrat ... (a free for all pvp zone)  I wanted to do that here but its not possible ... OS is the closest thing to it  but OS is dead  .... then there's custom battles  but  the repair cost would be  in the 10's of millions for an hour of play ....... then there's PVP ......(emote of a face vomiting) PVP just plain sucks ballls in this game ... I personally would like to take my Tyrant into the no win but after 10-20 dupes  I can imagine the repair cost would be 2-3 million  would I get 5 million and 20 of each material to remake dupes at the end ? you know other games remove repair costs in matches like that

Repair cost caps at like 450k, and in Endless Mode, you wouldn't get respawns. You die, and are kicked from the match with your rewards. Everyone else goes on fighting until last man dies.

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Id also imagine every once in a while, an allied destroyer would warp in to help, like Lang in Adrian's Thread. Maybe some side missions would appear too. Would make a fun combo of all the modes.

 

I just really think there needs to be a mode where you can grind up credits better than in PvE (and without the stupid MM wait times.)

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Also this has a pvp version suggested as well. A dogfight mode where players can join in randomly one by one and the longer a player stays alive the more reward he would get... also cant remember where this was suggested.

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6 hours ago, TheDarkRedFox said:

I just really think there needs to be a mode where you can grind up credits better than in PvE (and without the stupid MM wait times.)

 

All the modes used to give a lot more credits that they do now. Fire support used to pay out 775k. 1,100,000 with license.  Now its 175k to 220k. 330k with license.  I have all dlcs and ships. You are suppose to have perks for owning all content, but I am not seeing it. They took all those perks away over time.

 

I prefer PVP. PVE is just not for me. I can't afford the repair cost. Even with the desie removed from the slot. I am getting 175k to 225k a round. Ammo is 60k to 175k. Repair is 200,000 to 1,000,000. Even if i don't die, the ammo is usually most of my rewards.

 

I also think they should do away with repair cost completely. 

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50 minutes ago, DrDeath_ScD said:

 

All the modes used to give a lot more credits that they do now. Fire support used to pay out 775k. 1,100,000 with license.  Now its 175k to 220k. 330k with license.  I have all dlcs and ships. You are suppose to have perks for owning all content, but I am not seeing it. They took all those perks away over time.

 

I prefer PVP. PVE is just not for me. I can't afford the repair cost. Even with the desie removed from the slot. I am getting 175k to 225k a round. Ammo is 60k to 175k. Repair is 200,000 to 1,000,000. Even if i don't die, the ammo is usually most of my rewards.

 

I also think they should do away with repair cost completely. 

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To get repair cost at 1000000, you would have to have 2 destroyers destroyed 3 times in a game and another ship R14+ killed at least twice in a single game. Considering that respawn time for destroyers is 45 seconds, you would practically have to self destruct immediately after spawn to achieve that. Or go to multistage PvE and die the same amount of times...

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Or have auto repair off, and have a few ships one death away. Yes, I die a lot.  It seems like all eyes on me the moment i spawn most of the time.

 

These shot should speak for themselves. I got hundreds more.

 

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With license

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With out

 

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Oh and since we are talking about crap drops. 

 

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2 hours ago, DrDeath_ScD said:

Or have auto repair off, and have a few ships one death away. Yes, I die a lot.  It seems like all eyes on me the moment i spawn most of the time.

 

These shot should speak for themselves. I got hundreds more.

 

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Spoiler

With license

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With out

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Oh and since we are talking about crap drops. 

 

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800k? That's 3 deaths in the destroyer + 5 in other T5 ships... You died 8 times in one game? that's 2.5 minutes for dessie respawn + 2 minutes for other ships + 80 seconds of invulnerability, not including time getting to the battle. You were in respawn/invulnerability timer for almost 6 minutes from 7 minutes battle. Wow. 

And regarding iridium - as now you can just piggy back on tax from your corp sectors you cannot complain about extra free resources :p

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It always amazes me that players would jump from MMO to MMO and still spend money on a free to play MMO thinking you will actually get your monies worth out of a free to play MMO ... not to disrespect you but how many times are you going to complain about greedy MMO's and still fcking give them money ?????? once a MMO goes free to play its selling disposable fluff not content or usable product ..... I mean come on guys have you been here for the last year and payed attention at all? this isn't just the Russian MMO this is ALL MMO's Stop throwing money in the toilet people !!!!!!!

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Looks like people cant think of other possible scenarios. 

 

As for giving the nerf masters money, I can't anymore, I did a charge back for drops not as describe. I am banned from buying more gold.

 

As for elidium drops. "DROPS NOT AS DESCRIBED" Free corp iridium are u kidding me. I can't get all the sectors held. I will always chose monos. The nerf masters make if so you have to select one, and win every battle, and I almost never win.

 

As for deaths. I HAVE AUTO REPAIR OFF. You can go a round or 2 without cost, but usually I am on the losing side who is always spawn camped when i get there, so I am pretty much dead as soon as the invincibility timer runs out or i hit a module opr weapon. Minimum repair cost for me is almost always 400k. I have more broken ship than working at this point. my premium ships are useless compared tot he alien ones.

 

Respawns is another problem. I spend more time in respawn that playing. The timer should be 5 seconds period.

 

NO ONE ADDRESSED THE POOR PAY OUTS. I have all dlc, the credit pay should not be this low. 

I already asked support, but support is fake, and proved that countless times with refusal to fix anything.

 

PS taz, I am taking my upvote back. I see you are not a nice person.

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Lol the "support" for this game is absolute rubbish. Not only do they not help 90% of the time, but then they find you in the right, they CAN'T HELP because they have no power.

Thats right, the support staff can't help even if by some miracle they want to.

 

And yes, credits are now a more difficult resource to obtain unless you already had billions of them. (or already own everything.)

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58 minutes ago, TheDarkRedFox said:

And yes, credits are now a more difficult resource to obtain unless you already had billions of them. (or already own everything.)

Considering that payouts in PvP and PvE haven't changed in 18 months and actually for the Ariadne's Thread (which was added later)  it's over the double than the Defense Contract, the only reason I can see here is too much dying in game...

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+ support it

 

On 10.12.2017 at 1:39 AM, EndeavSTEEL said:

I do like the idea, I was thinking of something similar, like a big warfare area where everyone can join in or make private wing, and there will be everything literally, even a dreadnought and a Defiler :)

 Given there are rewards - it could be an idea to revive the custom battle scene? Think of it: a large continous battlefield with docks for say 4-8 teams 3/4 players each in different colours that start into the game when all 4 docks at the station are full with 3/4 player squads.

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qNiripas: How do you explain the change in .. lets say 'increased dying' and getting less rewards the long time players report?

For me it also feels like the gains were capped lately (as a side effect of the last patches)

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We need a 10x everything bonus event to last all week.

 

As you can see many of us are feeling the same pain.

 

 

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