xXConflictionXx 224 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 Match Maker is taking too long and when you finally get in its not enough people to really enjoy it. I get in 2 vs 2 more often than not and the most I am getting is 6 vs 6. That's barely even worth the effort of playing. I end up playing against the same few people the entire time and that too is lame. Also just fyi, someone checked the current amount of people logged in and it was ~5k so their is no reason why MM should be acting this way. Any thoughts on why or how this is happening? POLL: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDarkRedFox 1,587 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 Afk people Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MuflonUrsrs 15 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 i dont believe that was ~5k online Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXConflictionXx 224 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, MuflonUrsrs said: i dont believe that was ~5k online Your beliefs have nothing to do with this topic but thx for playing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDarkRedFox 1,587 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 We need queue gages again. Remember the little gui that would pop up in queue to tell you where all the people are? Like hangar/T2/T3/T4/etc? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koromac 1,263 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, TheDarkRedFox said: We need queue gages again. Remember the little gui that would pop up in queue to tell you where all the people are? Like hangar/T2/T3/T4/etc? This was most likely removed because of declining population count. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gizmomac 353 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 I think carebear mentality kills the MM. They trying to make the MM as fair as they can. I think MM was already good several times, the only thing what they need is more ppl. Even if they have 5k pp what I doubt, but let say 5k Spit them to 5 (PvP, PvE, OS, Coop, Other) Other=Specops, dread, scl so lets say you have 1000 ppl playing pvp. split them to 5 tier so 200 in your tier split them to 3 regions MM has 66pl so around ~8x8 team should play. But if 50% afk that still 4x8 teams... If the 5k would be the true they could make decent games if they don't try to be carebear. The i don't like the hotjoin its kills the tactics from the games. You can't select ship tactically at the beginning because you don't know who will hotjoin with what ship. (Actually its not true, you can select the most OP Elly ship, and don't care about tactics.) Before i get the hate messages, I don't wanna remove hotjoin, its a cool feature to give games faster to players, but it is only good if you have big games from the start. +1 player in a big game doesn't make much difference, but +1 player in 2v2 thats +50% increase. that change too much imo. I would tweek the MM to carebear less but in general give bigger games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXConflictionXx 224 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Gizmomac said: I think carebear mentality kills the MM. Yes, I believe you are right in this. I am still getting matches with people that don't pull their weight anyway so the carebear thing isn't working. I take back all the things I said about MM. We need more people in battle whether nub or pro just more people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MuflonUrsrs 15 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 24 minutes ago, xXConflictionXx said: Your beliefs have nothing to do with this topic but thx for playing Look at Steam stats. In last half year population melted by 38%. I know that majority is using Star Conflict launcher but Steam stats are showing curent trends very clearly. Grinding also need more time right now so players are doing daily missios for hours and they have no time for pvp. And this is an answer for your question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xKostyan 1,075 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 51 minutes ago, xXConflictionXx said: Yes, I believe you are right in this. I am still getting matches with people that don't pull their weight anyway so the carebear thing isn't working. I take back all the things I said about MM. We need more people in battle whether nub or pro just more people. I'd rather have 4v4 with all average-good pilots than a 8v8 with 4 players being worse than bots on both sides Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXConflictionXx 224 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, xKostyan said: I'd rather have 4v4 with all average-good pilots than a 8v8 with 4 players being worse than bots on both sides Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tillowaty 377 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 what do you mean by too long? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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TheDarkRedFox 1,587 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 The vets or wallet warriors will always destroy the competition regardless of how stupidly you "balance" PvP, so just start throwing like-ranks together instead of this awful mess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AKmatiAK 41 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 Less ppl = better battle. I most enjoy 4vs4, it's the best amount. In massive battles everything depends on F_u'Kin's and destroyers, Thar'Ga is easy to beat . In small battles score depends on me not OP p2w players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXConflictionXx 224 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, AKmatiAK said: Less ppl = better battle. I most enjoy 4vs4, it's the best amount. In massive battles everything depends on F_u'Kin's and destroyers, Thar'Ga is easy to beat . In small battles score depends on me not OP p2w players. This makes no sense... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xKostyan 1,075 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 37 minutes ago, xXConflictionXx said: And I never said other wise. You are the one trying to represent some generalization of "we". 1 hour ago, xXConflictionXx said: We need more people in battle whether nub or pro just more people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXConflictionXx 224 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 1 minute ago, xKostyan said: And I never said other wise. You are the one trying to represent some generalization of "we". Go spam someone elses thread. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Milfeulle 211 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 Just now, MuflonUrsrs said: i dont believe that was ~5k online Agreed, average player for Steam is 403, I don't believe 11 out of 12 players don't use Steam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xKostyan 1,075 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, xXConflictionXx said: Go spam someone elses thread. you are free to spam some other thread too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDarkRedFox 1,587 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 Kostantinople feeds off of interaction. Just act like his posts aren't there and you'll be fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnnynator1 147 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 21 minutes ago, Milfeulle said: Agreed, average player for Steam is 403, I don't believe 11 out of 12 players don't use Steam. AFAIK there are around the same amount of no Steam players as Steam players , so we have an average of a 800-900 Players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flash0914 142 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 Smaller battles are (mainly) won with skill (and alien ships), bigger battles are more likely won with tactics (and alien ships). -> the problem is: you can't do tactics with randos, because they are very likely to just ignore you and stay in 9 outta 12 lrf when the gamemode is capture the beacons =>therefore small battles are better 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXConflictionXx 224 Posted July 20, 2017 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Flash0914 said: Smaller battles are (mainly) won with skill (and alien ships), bigger battles are more likely won with tactics (and alien ships). -> the problem is: you can't do tactics with randos, because they are very likely to just ignore you and stay in 9 outta 12 lrf when the gamemode is capture the beacons =>therefore small battles are better Winning is one thing but having fun is another. 4 man battles are not fun and just boring. Not enough action compared to large battles. I get that you guys don't like randoms but if that is the problem then that is what needs to be fixed. Train them instead of calling them fukn nub. And yes, ik not everyone is going to get it but you might be surprised how many do get it after things finally get pointed out to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avarshina 152 Posted July 21, 2017 Report post Posted July 21, 2017 I eaven like it better to jump in a running battle then to wait long. MatchMaker is doing what it can to deal with circumstances. Yes, more players are needed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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