Sector Conquest battles should be Race vs Race?  

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  1. 1. Do you thing Sector Conquest battles should be Race vs Race?



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In sector conquest battles it should be race vs race.

Empire vs Jericho and Fed vs Jericho. Federation Vs Empire. You understand I hope. I don't know how to explain this well so bear with me hear.

 

In these matches it should be all Jericho on one side and all feds on the other, or all empire on one side and Jericho.

In Federation vs Empire same applys Federation on one side and Empire on the other. I hope your following this.

 

In a battle where there is mix of races it cancels out the sector control points for the competing corps. 

If The Corp and ESB are on the same team they both get the points despite the fact they are different races fighting for the same sector.

Example: one corp member and 5 esb members on the same team. 

One corp would get 5 win points and the other would only get one so in this case a win would be a loss in point difference.

 

To solve this issue would be to put all race players with one race vs an other, regardless of weather they are in corp or not.

Corp jurisdiction should always override players so that does not become an issue.

 

I believe this would remove a lot of the confusion in sector conquest.

I may even help some match making bugs due to the conflict of the rules by matching players who have conflict of interest.

 

I hope I made my point.

 

Please vote my comment up if you think this is a good idea. :good: 

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i believe this would remove a lot of the confusion in sector conquest.

 

no. I am confused even more

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what he means is that when you play sector conquest your whole team should be composed of players fighting for the same faction

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One would hope they redo that entire system anyway. The current quantity > quality isn't all that tempting to me.

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If they don't it comes down to: Who do you fight, when everybody is Jericho?! :D

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Sector conquest doesn't even work... where's the impact?

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I'm all for fighting only vs. your opposing factions.

 

By actively winning matches you then also prevent opposing factions from scoring. For once, MassDeath actually makes a good point - having the same factions on the same fight in combat makes both gain points and doesn't help the faction which is 'behind' whatsoever, thus creating an unfair situation where quantity and queueing more often is simply too much of an advantage.

 

Sector conquest should be based on quality and performance, not the amount of times or number of squads you can queue.

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I say, the biggest problem of matchmaking is, that it tries to create balanced matches, instead of actually making a point about fighting for a specific side and make weaker pilots crawl to the other fronts.

The only alternative should be to be a mercenary in a foreign conflict. But it gets ridiculous, that I have to fight Empire Corps to defend my empire space. It takes the sense out of that part of the game.

 

I bet that is already an intent anyway.

 

But I also understand, if this would not work with our playerbase atm., which the servers barely handle in peak times, so I still vote for making the quantity part rock solid, so we can introduce this "development plan" thingies.

 

Otherwise we could celebrate Jericho Day by all joining Jericho for one week and unlock the 4th race, by defeating the other empires.

I mean maybe, just maybe, *tinfoilhat* it is an alien test if we can settle our differences and we get beamed up to the mothership.

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@g4borg When you fighting against empire you get points either way. When THE CORP is on both sides one of us is gonna win.

If both side have same number of corp members we are going to get point no matter what because one of us is going to win. 

 

But at the same time if I have empire on my team and win both Empire and Jericho get a point towards the sector goal. This is not good for either of us.

If you have empire on both sides empire gonna get a point no mater what. One teams is going to win. I don't know how to explain this very well so i hope i got my point across if not, that's ok.

 

By the way my corp was Jericho before Jericho had most of the map. Took me a while to figure out how to get sectors. LOL.

 

Please vote my comment up if you find it helpful, Thanks.  :good: 

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Since I doubt you're the only person to do this, would turning sector conquest into a corp squad only affair and bringing back "arcade" prevent you from doing this?

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I will try to lose on purpose some times if I am alone and the other side has more corp members on it. Just so we get more points.

The points mentioned above are valid, and I agree that it is frustrating when your victories also aid the opposing faction. However, please keep in mind that throwing matches is a bannable offence.

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The points mentioned above are valid, and I agree that it is frustrating when your victories also aid the opposing faction. However, please keep in mind that throwing matches is a bannable offence.

How is that bannable? Please post that here. I am really stating to hate this game, especially after 320 bucks. 

 

Edited to reduce flaming. I MassDeath removed this part. Now lets all please get along.

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I learned this from watching other corps, and watching comments during battle. I did not come up with this on my own.I was told about it.

 

Edited to reduce flaming. I MassDeath removed names. Now lets all please get along.

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How is that bannable? Please post that here. I am really stating to hate this game, especially after 320 bucks. 

Please see the in-game ToS.

 

Section IV:

d) refuse to deal damage to the enemy. Shall be punished by blocking the account for 24 hours.

h) refuse to fight against the members of the corporation. Shall be punished by blocking the

account for 24 hours.

 

The problem with the MM is recognized, but please be patient until it is properly addressed. In the meanwhile, be mindful that you are not breaking rules.

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Something like this.

 

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Because you are not the only person who paid for the game.

Because you are not the only person who wasted 4 minutes of his life waiting and hoping for a good match

Because it is a lowlife motherfucking scum bag xxxx move

Because what is only one xxxx game where you show some balls and make your corp mates prove they brought theirs along too

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I learned this from watching TUF, DYN, NASA, NOVA and a few other corps, and watching comments during battle. I did not come up with this on my own.I was told about it.

 

NASA does not support this type of so called "strategy" we have signed the inter-corp agreement. 

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Please see the in-game ToS.

 

Section IV:

d) refuse to deal damage to the enemy. Shall be punished by blocking the account for 24 hours.

h) refuse to fight against the members of the corporation. Shall be punished by blocking the

account for 24 hours.

 

The problem with the MM is recognized, but please be patient until it is properly addressed. In the meanwhile, be mindful that you are not breaking rules.

 

Well I deal damage and get kills always, so then this does not apply??

I will always at least try to get kills other wise my rating gets hurt.

This does not say anything about not trying to win.

If a GM wrote this post it would be OK. but since the most hated guy in the game writes it......

 

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Ok, Ok. I think this is derailing abit. So lets establish the points on the outstanding issue:

 

1. Someone is choosing to leave battles against their own corp. This is not done to troll, but to help their Corp.

 

2. Despite this, it is still against the TOS. Its there to protect normal users from trolls that would use this tactic.

 

Lets not get up in arms, its not done to troll. But if it is against TOS then of course that doesn't make it ok, it still puts that team to a disadvantage. they may be not in a corp at all and they are essentially being penalized for something not their fault at all. So this still is a problem.even if the motivation is not malicious.

 

Solution: Perhaps alter the system so members of the same corp on different teams don't end up in this conflicting situation?

 

 

I personally don't mind facing off with other corp members. Its fun to test their mettle and proceed to get blown to smithereens by them repeatedly. But more hardcore players will min/mix every point they can, and thus may be faced with this dilemma. I'm not totally clear on what the original post is suggesting beyond a sector conquest change, simply because I don't think it'd really address the issue? But maybe I'm reading it wrong. 

 

Sector Conquest is a dilemma because you have corps, and then you have individuals thrown into the mix. Treating everyone like individuals [like it does now] in regards to matchmaking, makes sense. But that creates the problem of how points are awarded to corps. And overall, the matchmaking system is struggling with such a low population. This may be resolved simply with more members, and the system tweaked so it leans more towards either sticking people of the came corp on the same sides, or a limit to so many on one side per battle [either it be equalized, or the system only allows people from the same corp to be on one side of the fight]. You could limit this number to 3 so the system doesn't plop 6 corp members [who qued either alone or in a group] on one side against 6 non-corp individuals. 

 

In conclusion: This seems like a matchmaking problem and a system trying to compensate for a low population rather then a faction problem.

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Because you are not the only person who paid for the game.

Because you are not the only person who wasted 4 minutes of his life waiting and hoping for a good match

Because it is a lowlife motherfucking scum bag xxxx move

Because what is only one xxxx game where you show some balls and make your corp mates prove they brought theirs along too

I recently left a 4v4 right at the start when the other three decided to spawn LRFs. Wasting time goes both ways, and I didn't want to waste mine.

I'll also disconnect mid-game if it's too laggy. Same reason.

Feel free to ban.

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